Sep 7, 2003 10:12 AM
|His D-V team was given a start with the condition that Cipo attend. Cipo didn't even start the 2nd stage. If I was the organizer, I'd boot the whole team out to set an example.
I can't fault the Tour de France organizers for not selecting World Champion Cipo and his team. It could have been the same situation there.
|Cipo's exploits are becoming absurd.||sacheson|
Sep 7, 2003 10:44 AM
|In my opionion, that guy doesn't deserve an invitation to a professional race - period.
He's nothing more than a washed up ego-maniac and shames the World Champion jersey.
|Organizers can't arbitrarily...||Dwayne Barry|
Sep 7, 2003 1:42 PM
|kick a team out. Their only option was not to invite them, which was at their discretion. Of course they knew what was coming, they were stupid to make an issue of it in the first place. At least, he had the courtesy to ride the first stage. He could have literally pulled off ten meters after the TTT start and jumped in the team car.|
|I have some questions||Spoiler|
Sep 7, 2003 7:30 PM
|Why didn't he want to race? One story said he wasn't in shape. He's had since May to recover from that accident. If he's in shape, why didn't he want to race? Quaranta is out. He has a team to lead him out. He has a chance to ride another stage race in his rainbow jersey, that he so wants to show off.|
|You would have to ask him...||Dwayne Barry|
Sep 8, 2003 3:53 AM
|I read somewhere that his new contract with DV gave him off after July 31st of this year until next season.|
|he didn't train for it||atpjunkie|
Sep 8, 2003 4:31 PM
|no prep work, and then the organizers tell him race or your whole team is banned. He hasn't raced since May, he's probably prepping for Hamilton and then he's forced into a Grand Tour without 'wanting or being ready and prepared' to do so. I'm no Cippo Nut but I'd have done the same thing. DV has a fine team without him and Lombardi can contest a sprint nearly as well (finished 5th today) and lives in Spain. I think the Vuelta was 'his' to race. I don't approve of what Cippo did, but I don't approve of what the Vuelta organizers did equally. I think 'forcing' a rider into a GC (even a "short" one) is wrong. Can you imagine them threatening USPS with the same if LA didn't race?|
|re: Cipo Abandons||bjarne|
Sep 9, 2003 12:58 AM
|What is the difference, in what Cipo did, and what Lance and USP has done the last couple of years?
Lance has promissed both the organizers and Heras, that he would ride the Vuelta, to help Heras.
But at the last minut, he changed his planes, calling it a seasson.
This was what Cipo did, but because D/V had a wildcard, the organizer kicked them out, for´cing Cipo to start against his will.
Do you really think that Lance would have done more than one stage, had he been ordered to keep his word to Heras??
Sep 9, 2003 6:45 AM
|Lance never promised to ride the Vuelta for Heras. That is a total myth. He made comments about possibly riding for Heras a couple of times, but for the past two years and this year, it was made very clear by the team that Lance was riding the San Francisco race. The owners of USPS also happen to run that race, and they wanted Lance there to bring out the crowds. Only people who couldn't read a calendar still believed Lance was riding the Vuelta.
Besides, why would USPS need to pull the old bait-and-switch with the Vuelta? They don't need Lance to get in. Heras is a former winner, was 2nd last year, and has always added excitement to the race. He has earned an invitation on his own merits, and unlike Cipo, he wants to be there. Plus, forgetting the fact that USPS is in the top 10 club and has an automatic invite, USPS has been one of the major players in the last two Vueltas. If Lance and Heras had broken every bone in their bodies, USPS would still be invited to the Vuelta.
There's no comparison to Cipo and the DV situation. As the Vuelta will probably discover, DV is a decent team even without Cipo, and this is much ado about nothing.