|What was the strongest team of all time?||Alex-in-Evanston|
Aug 11, 2003 8:47 AM
|The concept of "team" in the tour has changed over the years. That being said, in the modern era of teams working for the victory of a team leader, what do you think was the strongest team?
I've only been a cycling fan since '95 so take this for what it's worth - Telekom '97 was a monster.
RIIS, Bjarne (Den) - b. 4/3/64
ULLRICH, Jan (Ger) - b. 12/3/73
ZABEL, Erik (Ger) - b. 7/7/1970
ALDAG, Rolf (Ger) - b. 8/25/68
BALDINGER, Dirk (Ger) - b. 8/27/71
BLAUDZUN, Michel (Den) - b. 4/30/73
BÖLTS, Udo (Ger) - b. 8/10/66
DIETZ, Bert (Ger) - b. 2/9/69
FRATTINI, Francesco (It) - b. 1/18/67
HENN, Christian (Ger) - b. 3/11/64
HEPPNER, Jens (Ger) - b. 12/23/64
HUNDERMARK, Kai (Ger) - b. 4/25/69
LOMBARDI, Giovanni (It) - b. 6/20/69
MÖLLER, Dirk (Ger) - b. 8/4/73
SCHAFFRATH, Jan (Ger) - b. 9/17/71
TOTSCHNIG, Georg (Ger) - b. 5/25/71
WESEMANN, Steffen (Ger) - b. 3/11/71
|I have to say Festina, 1998, despite their history,||TJeanloz|
Aug 11, 2003 9:40 AM
|I suppose the fact that they were all on EPO degrades them significantly, but I'd stack them up against Telekom any day of the week:
Telekom gets pretty thin after Ullrich, Zabel, Bolts, and Riis - and Riis is past his prime by 1997.
|'86 La Vie Claire||cyclopathic|
Aug 11, 2003 9:51 AM
|Hinault, LeMond, Steve Bauer, Andy Hampsten, Ruttimann, Bernard,... 5 top 12 finishers, 1-2-4 on top..|
|Yep. Maybe not the best, but my favorite. nm||OldEdScott|
Aug 11, 2003 9:54 AM
Aug 11, 2003 10:59 AM
|A strong team works together toward a common goal. That team was at war with each other. Their greatest enemy was themselves.
On paper, the USA basketball team competing for the 2002 World Championship were the strongest team. But once they actually had to play all together, they couldn't even finish in the top five. (I was hoping they'd fail to finish in the top ten, but we can't have everything can we?!)
If Ulrich, Lance, Pantani, Cippo, and Johan Museuw were on the same team, they'd have the strongest individual riders, but they'd get nothing accomplished. Ulrich and Lance would battle each other. Pantani would try capitalize on their battle. Cippo wouldn't help in the mountains, and Johan would be saving himself for an individual stage win.
|gotta agree with the pathic||atpjunkie|
Aug 12, 2003 1:31 AM
|86 La Vie, hell even 85 was monstrous. In 86 they split in 2 and defended 2 race leaders against each other, finished 1-2-4 (as CP stated) Yellow Jersey (Lemond) Polka Dot (Hinault) and I the Team. With all the in-fighting no one could capitalize and LVC took just about everything.|| |