|Prediction...Lance wins #6 then||gtscottie|
Aug 5, 2003 1:38 PM
|retires...It will take at least 6 years for anyone to match his record.|
|re: Prediction...Lance wins #6 then||atpjunkie|
Aug 5, 2003 6:06 PM
|considering 5x winners have come about 1 a decade and 6x have come never I think you've got a fine grasp on the obvious. :)|
|Will take 1 year...||purplepaul|
Aug 6, 2003 12:35 PM
|Because Merckx will come out of retirement and win all 3 grand tours. No, it won't be 6 in a row, but it will match Lance.
That's my prediction. You can count on it.
|Will take 1 year...||atpjunkie|
Aug 6, 2003 5:42 PM
|well Eddy is God ya know!|
|Merckx is so fat now........||MR_GRUMPY|
Aug 8, 2003 9:00 AM
|He would have a hard time finishing an American Masters 50+ race let alone winning.|
|That's what they used to say about Ullrich. nm||purplepaul|
Aug 8, 2003 12:05 PM
|Eddy knows retirement||atpjunkie|
Aug 8, 2003 6:24 PM
|after all those years of suffering and a$$ kicking I'd kick back and enjoy a few Belgian Trappist Ales along with my fine Belgian food. Don't forget the chocolates. I bet LA takes a similar route with Tex Mex and Coronas. Kinda like Thoroughbreds out to pasture.|
Aug 8, 2003 7:35 PM
|.....filet Americain, which most Americans wouldn't even dream of eating:)|
|Lance wins #7||Spoiler|
Aug 6, 2003 1:37 PM
|Let it ride.|
|Prediction...Simoni wins '04||DASS|
Aug 6, 2003 3:30 PM
|Simoni has good the goods, just needs to focus. Will he sacrifice the Giro to prep for the Tour? Can him team support a full Tour effort?
You heard it here first.
|Prediction...Simoni wins '04||atpjunkie|
Aug 6, 2003 5:50 PM
|doubtful. Simoni lacks the TT ability. Second he's Italian and would never sacrifice the Giro for the Tour. Third, no offense to the Italians (or Spaniards) but the Giro and the Vuelta are easier than the tour. Both have nasty (some of the nastiest Angliru etc..) climbs but Giro/Vuelta overall lack the competitveness and the overall speed of the Tour. In both Giro and Vuelta Mtn stages are approached at a little easier of a pace, days where Teams call truce are more often and there is usually shorter distances on the MTN stages. It's why more sprinters survive those races than the TdF, so just becuase a guy wins a Giro(s) doesn't necessarily give him the stuff to win a tour. Otherwise Paolo Savoldelli would have been in the top 10 of GC this year. So yes I heard it here first but like Simoni's claim that he would chip away at Lance it's more talk than action.|
|It's the riders...||noveread|
Aug 7, 2003 6:27 AM
|Also, nearly everyone in the Tour field has the Tour as their #1 objective of the year. Not so in the Giro or Vuelta. As Lance said, the Tour starts with 200 incredibly fit riders trying to make their mark.
That folks, is the real difference. It's the RIDERS that make the race difficult, not the course.
The Empty Wrapper
|All good points above||DASS|
Aug 7, 2003 10:28 AM
|Yep, I agree. Good points.
I guess my speculation was based on Simoni's performance in the last two Giros. If he showed that kind of focus at the Tour he would be a viable threat at the Tour.
But, the Italians are notorious for fighting among themselves, lots of drama, not interested in a full fledge Tour focus. I guess I could say the same for the Spanish.
|Prediction...Simoni wins '04||cyclerant|
Aug 7, 2003 3:49 PM
|Perhaps Simoni could win if he got his Kilos down so he could climb faster. Not those type of kilos.
He needs to lose that big mouth of his!!!!!!!
With Tyler, Lance, Jan and a host of other contenders Simoni will not see a podium spot in TdF. Don't forget he almost dropped out this year after talking a lot of trash.
Yes he got a stage good for him.
Aug 7, 2003 5:28 PM
|all he said that when he rode in tour de Suisse 2 years ago he felt he could drop Lance and make him suffer in mnt. There're have been riders dropping LA in mnt, as the matter of fact this year. Mayo, Ulrich, Vino, Zabeldia.. get your facts straight before you accuse.
agree Simoni is not likely to win tour with Lance and Jan around, but he stacks pretty good against Tyler/Beloki likes. Now, he won't sacrifice Giro for tour.
Aug 8, 2003 12:09 PM
|This year he said that there were no climbers in the TDF and that he was going to chip away at Armstrong for the win.
Obviously, not words Simoni would likely repeat.
|funniest thing is||atpjunkie|
Aug 8, 2003 6:13 PM
|those stuffed Credit Lyonaisse (sp) Lions they give the stage and race leader at the podium. Simoni brought his to Lance and had him sign it.|
|pls include quotes||cyclopathic|
Aug 11, 2003 6:01 AM
|otherwise it is baseless BS.|
|pls include quotes||cyclerant|
Aug 11, 2003 9:30 AM
|Sorry do not have the mags with me but check out any of the pro cycling mags leading up to the tour.
There are a number of things that were said.
Perhaps another stage win. By the way nice job this year. He took a stage but forget about his tour hopes as that is a lot of hot air and baseless BS.
Aug 12, 2003 1:23 AM
|are in 2 issues of CycleSport (Liggets MAg). In the post Giro issue and TdF preview I think. I couldn't care less but he did say to paraphrase "we can chip away at him in the mountains...he hasn't been challenged...I saw weakness in D.L. ...I'm the guy who can attack him"
if you want I'll dig up the rags. It's got cool pix of his custom painted C'Dale ( flat stage bike as paint adds weight)
Aug 12, 2003 3:54 AM
|Oh and there is this one " I'm not going to France for fun, but to give him [Lance Armstrong] problems. I don't think he has ever confronted an adversary like me in the mountains"
Yeah pretty big talk to be putting youself in there with people that have to be marked, Jan, Vino, Beloki (prior to crash) etc. vs someone ,Simoni, that wishes he ranked a big enough threat to be marked. If he would have abandoned this year it would have had no impact on the race as he just doesn't rate among the tops in this Tour. An "adversary" please.
|and don't forget||atpjunkie|
Aug 12, 2003 9:45 PM
|my fave. "I want a more balanced tour with more climbs and less TT's." (CycleSport Aug 2003). Hold on, there were 3 TT'S (1 BEING TTT, I'm not counting the prologue as it is inconsequential) 1 TT was uphill and 6 mountain stages. I wonder what 'balance' means to Simoni?|
|as Lance said||cyclopathic|
Sep 2, 2003 9:08 AM
|"you never know what guy really said and what press writes."|
|so yer saying||atpjunkie|
Sep 3, 2003 7:33 PM
|those are all 'misquotes'? yer defending a guy who rode an all pink TT bike. a 130 lb climbing weenie who lost another 5 so he could compete at the Giro. a great climber but a mediocre TTer who complains that a 3-1 ratio isn't 'balanced'. c'mon pathic you're a knowledgable guy, are you a C'Dale nut?|
|that is what you're saying bro||cyclopathic|
Sep 4, 2003 2:41 PM
|all I am saying it is Lance to have problem with Simoni mouth, and if Lance has no problem with it, why should I?
watch LA interview, Phil'n'Paul asked him about Simoni and what Lance had to say. Generally Lance isn't as nice to people who are not nice to him.
PS. maybe one day you'll loose some weight and learn to climb too. Then we'll talk 'bot pink Cdales 8-P
|my climbing days....||atpjunkie|
Sep 4, 2003 4:24 PM
|ended on my 14th birthday when I hit 6'3" and an anemic & scrawny 175. (so did my aspirations of ever making the Peloton). By 15 I was 6'4" and 200. After rowing Div 1 I topped at 6'5" and 220. Even at 5% body fat I'll never dip below 200 unless I get Lanced ( have Cancer eat away mass muscle tissue). and that would still put me some 20-30 heavier than even the sprinters. I never said LA had trouble with Simoni, why would he? All he's ever quoted, or misquoted as saying is 'there's a lot of talk before the tour....". You defended Simoni by asking for verification of the quotes, which were provided, and when you got them you used the misquote defense. I just find this amusing and more of a homerism than you acuse many LA fans of in this post. which you've mistaked me for.
Personally I lean to the Museeuw, Hincapie, Tchmil flahute 1 day guys as it best represents how and in what conditions I like to ride. As far as C'Dales, nice bikes...over priced, under spec'd IMHO and the TT's are too short for me. The CAAD 7 is nice, come quite a ways since the filling rattling CAAD3 and 4's.
but as far as climbing I do well for my size and will spot just about anybody 20 lbs and race. So fill a pack of sand to bring your rider weight to 210 lbs and I'm ready to go.
|there is hope||cyclopathic|
Sep 5, 2003 5:20 AM
|I started season at 153lbs and now down to 136-138lbs. 15lbs maybe isn't big deal for you, but it is more then 10% of my body weight. I lost 10lbs riding PBP, you'd probably loose 15-20 riding ~250-300mi a day for 3 days :). It works even better then cancer from what I can tell.
I'd climb well if I hadn't blown knees in process. :( And no, I am not riding with 70lbs sand bag, don't get your hopes high 8-P
yes Cdales are nice bikes.. overpriced, underspec'd and TT is too long for me. CAAD7 is nice, but I won't consider Al bike for type of riding I do.
with respect to Simoni yeah he probably talks much, but Italian press tends to blow all their heroes say way out of proportion. All those quotes above from velonews, etc are 3rd hand interpretations, reprints from italian press noone went and actually interviewed him.
Simoni is hard working rider, I wish him good. Unfortunately the perception on this board is skewed; many riders get hissed at just because they're not American. Just ask yourself how many supporters LA would have had here if he were i) Italian; f) French; s) Spanish; g) German?
PS if being objective is a sign of homerism, then I am guilty
|250-300 a day....||atpjunkie|
Sep 8, 2003 6:11 PM
|yes, that would burn some cals. PBP...am not familiar with the anach. Paris Brussels Paris? call me ignorant, sorry sounds like a hell of a ride.
Don't have anything against Simoni either..maybe his hooligans though. Agree on lost translation. 136-138 hmmmm that was Nov. of my Eighth grade. By January I was 175 and on medication to help my body through a massive growth spurt.
C'Dale TT too long? are you all legs? their TT's are shorter than most Italian frames which are traditionally short. Do you get custom? Boutique Steel I presume? Ultra distance, is that the type you do? I mostly race cx which is good for some pounds dropping as well (some times from a post race hurl)
I agree on the LA homerism, I had to explain (and argue) to some guy the physiological and psychological diff. between GC riders and sprinters. Some homer was speculating LA could hang in a bunch sprint, so I understand where you are coming from. I think what is the worst part is so many American (which I am) homers are fairly new to cycling and lack proper historical perspective. (which I have). It's going to get tough if Americans start dominating the peloton, first we start competing in Futbol, next we take cycling's high prize. Doesn't bode well for slowing down Yank overconfidence.
But then again I also said Boris Becker wouldn't have called Jan the rider of the year if Jan wasn't German so homerism is truly international. I think Vino has had the breakthrough year, he and Tyler would be my 2 votes.
I just miss Domo FF. Go Flahutes!!!