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Thank you OLN. Now go hunt and fish.(10 posts)

Thank you OLN. Now go hunt and fish.fcebedo
Jul 29, 2003 1:33 PM
Credit where credit is due:
OLN. Fantastic job on the tour! Great crew, great coverage, 5x a day, decent ads. You've set the mark!

Now here's the downer. Go back and chase the $$ and go the hunting, fishing, redneck rampage stuff. Not that there's anything wrong with Guns, Ammo, shotguns and gold panning. It's just that you are screwing us your audience and trying to pretend you're the network for cyclists, REI type sports, active lifestyle. You pretend to be good to us but in reality, aside from the 3 grand cycling tours, you've abandoned the active lifestyle audience.

Economics. Follow the $$ and turn your channel into the Hunting and Fishing Channel. Hey, isn't there a channel like that? It's called the Great Outdoors Channel. At least they know what they are and don't lure us into watching Skeet Shooting and Hunting with Hank. Your network is screwed up and you know it. You are now de-programmed from my DirecTV. I will be back promptly at the Vuelta de Espana.


p.s. Thanks for the 15 hours of coverage of the running of the bulls. Yes, yes, I needed to follow who got gored where at Stage 8 in Pamplona.

OLN lineup for Aug. 1
The Art of Topwater Fishing (cc)
The In-Fisherman staff looks at the art of top water fishing.
Duck and Dove Hunting
Join OLN for another exciting episode of Dr. Buck Outdoors.
Tennessee Turkey
Host Charlie Ingram teaches some necessary skills for spring gobblers. Plus a spot and stalk hunt for turkey.
Outdoor Product Showcase
For those looking for the most up-to-date merchandise, this program is for you. Join us as we highlight the latest outdoor products available to the active consumer.
Royal Botanical Gardens (CC)
Nestled in the Western corner of lake Ontario is Coots Paradise, a marshland habitat housing countless numbers of wildlife. Coots is at the centre of RBG's remedial action plan to reverse the trend of pollution in the area. Jack and Tracie visit areas around the marsh with RBG Bioligists and teachers and see firsthand what is being done.
Outdoor Edibles
Join host Marc Travers and special guest Dr. Gino Ferri, noted outdoor survival expert and learn how more about how to survive off the land from someone who spent 29 days in the bush of Canada without provisions.
Outdoor Product Showcase
For those looking for the most up-to-date merchandise, this program is for you. Join us as we highlight the latest outdoor products available to the active consumer.
9:30AM - 10:00AM RVtoday
Mesquite & Valley of Fire (cc)
Nevada's snowbird destination, Mesquite, and the Valley of Fire will be featured. Mesquite is a popular destination for RVers and well known for good food, nice weather and great golf. JoAnna Lund of Healthy Exchanges will try out a few more recipes designed for RVers. Trailer brake and wheel-bearing service will be highlighted, and a few more Quick Tips will be presented.
10:00AM - 10:30AM RVtoday
Las Vegas
RVing in and around Las Vegas, Nevada. JoAnna Lund, creator of Healthy Exchanges and author of a number of best-selling cookbooks for RVers, will offer a number recipes that are easy to fix and healthy to eat. Marker lights will be serviced and replaced in this week's how-to segment and Quick Tips will show viewers a few new tricks
10:30AM - 11:00AM PHOTO SAFARI
Thailand Part I (cc)
Maria Conchita-Alonso joins travel photographer Rick Sammon in the kingdom of Thailand. Our intrepid duo explore the jungle confines of Khao- Yai National Park, about 2 hours outside Bangkok, in search of monkey, birds, and elephants as subject matter for their roving lenses.
Boar Attack/HikerFalls (cc)
I'm sure they'll miss youmohair_chair
Jul 29, 2003 1:49 PM
I think you got yourself into a strange co-dependency relationship with your TV and it's probably best that you break it off. Maybe it's time to see other people.

I'd love to see what you would program for Aug 1. I'm really looking forward to seeing live coverage of the Tour de la Guadeloupe.
here's some suggestions...fcebedo
Jul 29, 2003 2:24 PM
Low-blow. That's fine, maybe you're perfectly satisfied with their other programming. If you don't think there's other material to cover in August, I won't be able to convince you. But here's my suggestions:

Cycling - product guides, Ride Guide, Cycling Journal, Bike Magazine Show, Any US race.

Adventure Racing
Adventure Travel
Rock Climbing
Running. Surfing, BMX, Skating, Windsurf, Kitesurf. ANY competition on these subjects.

Instead what we're getting is a clone of the Outdoor Channel:
Tuesday's Show Schedule
EST Click on a Program Title To View Details
12:00AM Thompson/Center Outdoor Adventures
12:30AM Chevy Sportsman
1:00AM Midwest Bass Fishin' and Huntin'
1:30AM Whistle Stops
2:00AM Wild Outdoors
2:30AM Buckmasters
3:00AM Closing the Distance
3:30AM Fishing with Joe Bucher
6:00AM To Be Announced
6:30AM To Be Announced
7:00AM Limb Saver's Outdoor America
7:30AM Bowhunter Magazine's American Archer
8:00AM The Management Advantage
8:30AM Outdoor Traditions
9:00AM Bushnell Outdoors with Dave Watson
9:30AM Mike Avery's Outdoor Magazine
10:00AM Wildlife Point Blank
10:30AM Hunting Across America
11:00AM Tales of the Hunt
11:30AM Discover the Outdoors TV
12:00PM Ronnie Kovach's Fishing Ventures
12:30PM To Be Announced
1:00PM Texas Trophy Hunters
1:30PM Louisiana Outdoor Adventures
2:00PM To Be Announced
2:30PM ScentBlockers' Just Huntin'
3:00PM Archer's Choice
3:30PM To Be Announced
4:00PM Jim Shockey's Hunting Adventures
4:30PM Guns & Ammo Television
5:00PM Whitetail Adventures with Brenda Valentine
5:30PM Track and Trail Adventures with Wally Dallenbach
6:00PM Gold Fever
6:30PM Gold Fever
7:00PM Prospecting America
7:30PM Better Built's World of Outdoors
8:00PM Knight & Hale's Ultimate Hunting
8:30PM Primos' TRUTH About Hunting
9:00PM Mossy Oak Classics
9:30PM American Hunter Television
10:00PM Bio Logic and Drury Outdoors' Wildlife Obsession
10:30PM AdventureBound Outdoors
11:00PM Babe Winkelman's Outdoor Secrets
11:30PM Northwest Hunter

I'm sure they'll miss youericy
Jul 29, 2003 6:05 PM
I have an idea - instead of watching TV, we could all go cycling :-). Just a thought...
In part I agreePhatMatt
Jul 29, 2003 4:13 PM
I remember they once I great Climbing and mountaineering. They also had pretty good MT Biking coverage. I agree. Hell it seems even ESPN airs a lot of hunting and fishing shows. Dont get me wrong, I actualy hunt and fly fish. I just do not like to watch it.

re: Thank you OLN. Now go hunt and fish.Spoiler
Jul 29, 2003 5:46 PM
"You pretend to be good to us but in reality, aside from the 3 grand cycling tours, you've abandoned the active lifestyle audience."

Have you forgotten most of the spring classics, Summer Sports Zone, World Cup Mountain Biking etc? These are offered in addition to nearly 24 hr coverage of three different, month-long grand tours. So during May, July, and September, OLN is nearly dominated by cycling. I think we get our fair share.

OLN was covering fishing etc. long before they covered grand tours, so they'd be abandoning their fishing/hunting audience if they ditched that.

Viewers can't exactly be "lured" into watching a show that's titled "Hunting with Hank"? Once you read the title you should expect to see Hank Hunting.

Based on the interest in this site and others, maybe a dedicated cycling network could survive. But it would be a labor of love, not a huge money making venture.
Four words for ya FrancisSpoiler
Jul 29, 2003 6:15 PM
Sports Illustrated Swimsuit (is that 3 or 4 words?)
Tonight, 7 p.m. OLN.
I confess, I'd rather watch this than rock climbing;)
I agree but...peter1
Jul 29, 2003 7:26 PM
Problem, I think, with running real outdoor shows (sorry, huntin' and fishin' and skeet shootin' don't count in my book) is that the people who care even the slightest about climbing, mt biking, surfing etc. have much better things to do than watch TV, and probably can't afford digital cable, which is what you need in most areas to get OLN...If it hadn't been too hot to ride and I didn't have a pulled ACL, I would have only watched half the TDF stages...
re: Thank you OLN. Now go hunt and fish.spankdoggie
Jul 30, 2003 11:45 AM
Hey Francis, you bastard. OLN is a good network. I honestly watched a show a couple of nights ago, where they set up, and shot a deer, point-blank in the head. My wife screamed and left the room, and she was crying about the state of this nation and this world, but watching them kill a deer on OLN was pretty entertaining for me, in hindsight. As long as the hunters eat it afterwards, then it is cool; there must be a method to the madness.

Running of the bulls was cool. That one bull jacked up the old jackass on the wall so hard... That was funny...sent the idiot to the hospital...

Then when that other bull jumped the fence and landed on top of about a 14 dumb drunk Spaniards, I was simply in tears with laughter.

OLN is not a great channel, in the true sense, but what channel is? I give it up to OLN for giving us some decent Tour de France coverage.

I watched every day of it.

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Jul 30, 2003 12:19 PM