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Question about final stage tacticssuperdog
Jul 25, 2003 5:27 PM
Suppose Lance and Jan come out of the TT in a situation where they are virtually tied overall. What are the possible tactics that would be employed in the final stage?
re: Question about final stage tacticsrussw19
Jul 25, 2003 7:05 PM
Setting aside 1989 where there was a Time Trial on the last day of the race, tradition dictates that you don't race on the final sunday until you hit Paris. If the race were close enough that it could still be decided in the end of stage bonus seconds.. well that would make for one helluva sprint finish, huh? But by tradition, you don't race until you hit the 10 laps on the Champs Elyesse. (or however you spell that...)

Actually, are there even end of stage time bonuses on the last day, or just points for the green jersey? I don't really know. I can't really think of any time when the race was this close. In 1987 Roche won by I think 40 seconds.. and in 89 it was a Time Trial that gave Lemond the 8 second win, so I am not even sure if there are time bonuses on the last stage.

Russ
re: Question about final stage tacticsAndrew
Jul 25, 2003 7:36 PM
I believe there are 2 sprint bonuses in the final stage. My guess is that Lance and Jan would have a hard time taking any of them even if they wanted to. The Green Jersey competition is extremely close. The sprinters are going to be doing everything they can to get those points, and Lance and Jan are not great sprinters. They would be safer staying with their teams and avoiding trouble. I think the GC will be decided tomorrow in the ITT. However, if I were only a couple of seconds from winning the Tour I would probably try my hardest to muster up a little more strength from somewhere to get that victory. I wish I could make a valid prediction, but a race this close could cause me to eat my shoes. Regardless of the final result, this has been the best Tour that I have ever had the pleasure of following!
re: Question about final stage tacticsSpoiler
Jul 25, 2003 8:26 PM
In the 1991 Tour, Greg Lemond was out of the race for a podium spot, but he broke away on the final stage heading into Paris. By his own admission, it was an attack for show, and the peleton caught him on the first lap of the circuit.
It's traditional to ease into Paris when the time bonus' offered along the way won't have any impact on any of the jerseys. I think in 2001, Zabel and O'Grady were battling for the Green Jersey. The time bonus' and finishing bonus would decide the outcome. Strangely enough, neither rider tried to contest the bonus sprint on the ride into Paris. Instead, they were content to let the finishing sprint decide the prize.

My guess is both rides will do everything they can to decide the race before the final sprint. Neither want to battle it out with the sprinters on the finish line. Jan has the advantage when it comes to sprints. Lance has lost most of the big sprints he's been involved with in Amstel Goal and previous Tour sprints.
re: Question about final stage tacticsrussw19
Jul 26, 2003 1:37 AM
Yeah, I remember the Zabel-O'Grady battle, but the Green Jersey is about points... time is irrelevent to that race. My question is are there still time bonuses in seconds for the top placings? More for curiousity than anything else.. I am sure that Jan and Lance will be well placed in the final sprint, but I don't think high enough up to take a time bonus if offered.

Russ
re: Question about final stage tacticsbiggearlover
Jul 25, 2003 7:46 PM
It's very unlikely overall times will tie. When seconds are not enough they'll compare hundredth's of seconds as measured in the TT's. According to the reglement.