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Questions, questions...Suddha
Jul 25, 2003 7:34 AM

Can someone explain how the points competition works? Is it based on whomever crosses the sprint checkpoints ahead most consistently? So Baden Cooke has crossed ahead of McEwen more times over the Tour so far? Also, how does the King of the Mountains competition work? Does this mean that Virenque has crossed more summits ahead of everybody else through the Tour?

OK, and if, after the TT on Sat., only a couple seconds separate Ullrich and Armstrong, would there be a real battle to Paris in the last stage? No one seems to be talking about that possibility. Most years the last stage is ceremonial for the maillot jaune rider. But even a minute or more could be made up if Ullrich or Armstrong could break away on the last stage. In that case, I think Jan would be the better sprinter.

Sorry so many questions... maybe you can explain the sport of cricket to me while you're at it. :)

From the rule book...mohair_chair
Jul 25, 2003 7:44 AM
The general individual points classification will be determined by adding the points obtained in the prologue and the individual stage classification, in accordance with the following scales and taking into account time penalties:

• For flat road racing stages: 35, 30, 26, 24, 22, 20, 19, 18, 17, 16, 15, 14, 13, 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 and 1 for the first 25 riders;

• For rolling stages: 25, 22, 20, 18, 16, 15, 14, 13, 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 and 1 for the first 20 riders;

• For mountain stages: 20, 17, 15, 13, 12, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 and 1 for the first 15 riders;

(If riders share equal placing in a stage, they will be given the total amount of points divided by the number of riders involved in the tie. The number of points obtained will be rounded off to the superior half point.)

• For individual time trial stages as well as the Prologue: 15, 12, 10, 8, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 and 1 for the first 10 riders.

• For each hot-spot sprint 6, 4 and 2 points are attributed to the first three riders respectively.

If any competitors share equal points in the general classification, the order is determined based on the number of stages won, the number of second places gained and so on, until a higher number of hot-spot sprints and at last the overall classification.

Riders must finish the Tour de France in order to be placed in the general points classification.
OK.Dwayne Barry
Jul 25, 2003 7:48 AM
Points are on offer at the finish of each stage for the top finishing riders, there are also 2 sprint points out on the road where the first 3 riders can pick up points (and time bonuses). Whoever accumulates the most points by the end of the tour wins it. Right now pretty much either Mcewen or Cooke have won it barring them both crashing out or totally blowing the final sprint in Paris.

Mountain points are awarded for the order over the summit of certain mountains (different mountains are ranked differently which determines how many and how deep the points go).

Everyone's been talking about there actually being a race on Sunday for the GC, but the difference between Armstrong and Ullrich would have to be only a handful of seconds because there's almost no way one would successfully get away from the other. But they could swap positions by picking up seconds at one of the sprint points (like today) or maybe just maybe getting away together and taking the time bonuses on the stage (because neither of them have a snowballs shot of finishing top 3 in a bunch sprint).

There is precedent for the #1 and 2 breaking away but the overall was not really up for grabs.
Forget itCHRoadie
Jul 25, 2003 8:40 AM
I was in England a few years ago and spent a few hours watching a cricket match on BBC. By the end of the match I had no idea what was going on, and the scoring system might as well have been in Sanskrit. I decided it would be easier to figure out hydrodynamics than cricket...