|Any thoughts on whether the US will ever host a Grand Tour?||Endure|
Jul 25, 2003 6:30 AM
|What do you mean?||TJeanloz|
Jul 25, 2003 6:35 AM
|Will the US ever host a stage of the Tour, Giro, or Vuelta? Quite possibly. The Tour has often considered NYC as a prologue site, but they've never worked out the money and logistics to make it happen.
Will the US have its own grand tour? Never.
There have been long division 1 stage races in the U.S., most notably the Coors Classic and the Tour DuPont, but to be a "Grand Tour" requires a bit more than just a lot of money and a big race. It requires history, prestige, solid domestic support, and other non-racing factors that the US will never have. It is quite likely that there will be a 2.1 rated UCI race at some point in the near future (Tour of Georgia could grow into that) - but that's still a stretch to GT status.
|Possible: 2008 Quebec city prologue. nm||Spunout|
Jul 25, 2003 7:17 AM
|I agree with Jeanloz...||noveread|
Jul 25, 2003 8:49 AM
|No, never a GT in the US.
But hopefully we can get some well-ranked smaller tours. Tour Dupont in its last year was a 2.1, hopefully the Tour of Georgia can get up to a 2.2 next year. The jump to a 2.1 is a bit harder than 2.3 to 2.2 as there is a limit on the number of 2.1 races in a year (as there is a limit on 2.HC, 1.1 and 1.HC).
However, the problem with going to 2.1 is that no longer elite amateur or national squads can be invited. 2.1 are pro-only races.
Nonetheless, it would be nice to see Redlands/Sea Otter/Tour of Georgia get decent UCI status to give some Euro teams legitimate reason to spend some time in the US. A series of three stage races with 2.3/2.3/2.2 (or even 2.1) might be enough to get better attendance from the Euros.
The Empty Wrapper
Jul 25, 2003 6:45 AM
|If you mean host as in the "Tour des United States" it's not going to happen. The UCI only allows three grand tours and France, Italy, and Spain have taken all the slots.
If you mean host a stage of the Tour de France, that's not going to happen either. The Tour is a massive thing. You really have no idea unless you go see it in person. There are hundreds of vehicles, easily containing a thousand or more people. That doesn't even include the trucks that haul all the buildings and equipment around, or the press/broadcast center, or the buses. It's absolutely huge, and there's no way they can put it all on a boat and sail over from America back to France. They had a hard enough time going to Ireland in 1998, but at least that was only an eight hour ferry ride and an hour flight for the riders. If they go offshore again, it will be to England or Corsica, or some other island that is very close to the mainland.
|Don't think enough people in the US give a crap about cycling||DougSloan|
Jul 25, 2003 6:48 AM
|Instead of hundreds of thousands of fans lining the roadside, you'd have a bunch of redneck pricks pissed off that their road was blocked because of some pansies in lycra.|
Jul 25, 2003 7:00 AM
|Don't think enough people in the US give a crap about cycling||Spoiler|
Jul 25, 2003 7:05 AM
|Certain ingredients and circumstances are responsible for the success and status of the grand tours. I don't see any of these happening in the United States.
I know nothing about economics, and little about corporate PR, but I'd think putting on a grand tour isn't a very cost effective publicity. Cost aside, it isn't worth the headache of closing off roads, getting Euro Teams over here, and persading riders to set aside three or four weeks of their racing calendar.
|plus no sponsors either...||marcoxxx|
Jul 25, 2003 8:24 AM
|i guess corp america is orientated toward big media, superbowls, nascar, real TV, etc and rather not invest money in boys in tight pants too. just wonder how long usps can justify their team..?
Jul 25, 2003 7:14 AM
|... where would it fit in the season schedule. If you put it early, no big teams would come ride it for fear of wearing riders out for the "important" GT's. If you put late, no big teams would ride it becuase everyone s already to tired. Not to mention it would compete with the world cup races.
It would have to start small (i.e. Tour of Georgia), and grow in to importance over decades, requiring very patient sponsors. It would also have to hope for the demise of a current GT. I doubt that will ever happen.