|ClifBar.com and USPS' most valuable domestique...||jtferraro|
Jul 24, 2003 7:09 AM
|I keep seeing that ad on OLN for Clif Bar and voting for the most valuable USPS domestique - a hard decision. I figured I'd toss the question around RBR to help me decide whom to vote for. What's the consensus here, if any?
|re: ClifBar.com and USPS' most valuable domestique...||Tarangu|
Jul 24, 2003 7:14 AM
|I think it would have to be Chechu Rubiera.|
|I was thinking the same...but hard to pick just ONE! (nm)||jtferraro|
Jul 24, 2003 7:47 AM
|best answer: Ekimov or Padrnos||mohair_chair|
Jul 24, 2003 7:18 AM
|I'm sure the high mountain guys Heras, Rubiera, or Beltran will win, or the middle guys, Hincapie, Landis, and Pena. But the real answer is Ekimov or Padrnos. You very rarely see these guys on the coverage, meaning they've already burned themselves out early in the race. The other guys on the team may or may not have to work in the later part of the race as other teams and tactics come into play, but Ekimov and Padrnos have to show up every day for little glory.|
|good point! hmm... (nm)||jtferraro|
Jul 24, 2003 7:49 AM
Jul 24, 2003 7:53 AM
|I don't have OLN this year (I miss it after having it for the last couple of tours....) so I haven't seen the footage, from what I have following on LeTour.com it may be a tough choice.
I'd like to give it to the whole team for winning the Team Time Trial (which is about the diff at this pt in the race btw Jan and Lance).
I'd say Ekimov and Hincapie have done a decent job of protecting Lance in a hard fought race,
Of the mtn guys, I'd probably give it to Ruberia - Heras has been ill, Beltran though may be the most valuable for another reason...... he's on Postal rather than Bianchi....
My final answer....- the whole Team
|Definitely without a doubt: Chechu nm||eschelon|
Jul 24, 2003 7:52 AM
|Beltran, without a doubt......nm||african|
Jul 24, 2003 8:01 AM
|I'd say Beltran or George...||Joe Connell|
Jul 24, 2003 9:40 AM
|Beltran has been the last man in the Mountians this year, and George has seemed to eat up miles at the front, even more then normal. So I'd have to give it to one of those two.
|Not sure yet, but maybe the one who..||hrv|
Jul 24, 2003 10:17 AM
|they showed opening up the wrapper on a Power Bar and handing it to Lance on a recent stage. Now that's a domestique!
|Hincapie is the man!!!!!||kushogun|
Jul 24, 2003 10:52 AM
|We've seen him near the front, if not on it until the final km's on the steepest climbs, he's the main motor with Pavel on the flats, and he's taken long pulls during the TTT. Granted, all the other guys are great as well, but George has really shown he is a great ALL AROUND domestique. One must remember that riders like Heras are more along the lines of a "protected" rider, still not doing the dirtiest of duties. IMHO the spoils have to go to George!|
|Hincapie is the man!!!!! AGREED||atpjunkie|
Jul 24, 2003 1:14 PM
|the Roulers don't get the televised publicity the climbers do. George pulls the flats, pulls the hills and TTT'S. Go George, win P.R. next year dammit!|
Jul 24, 2003 11:28 AM
|I'm voting for Beltran. It was his sharp acceleration at the base of L'Alp D' Huez (the steepest part) that dropped Ulrich and allowed Lance to gain 1:24 on him.
" Even Armstrong admitted the pace was 'supersonic,' and it immediately took its toll. Richard Virenque, so proud to be in the yellow jersey was one of the first victims, soon followed by Jan Ullrich."
Beltran's move was criticized at first because it put all the other Posties in so much difficulty, but I think in retrospect it was worth it to put that time into Ulrich. Lance only leads by 1:07. How important does that 1:24 look now? I know ruberia will probably win and hes one of my favs too, I just think it would be a shame for Beltran to finish behind an ailing Heras.
|How about Heras?||jhart11|
Jul 24, 2003 5:25 PM
|Indeed, Heras has not been as potent in the mountains as last year, but he is sick and is taking antibiotics and is STILL giving 100%. Did you guys see Heras blow up on stage 13, then recover and blow up again? If we are giving the award based both on concrete results AND the most SUFFERING, then Heras has got my vote. The man is leaving all he's got on the road everyday, despite going to the hospital for chest x-rays and such after stages due to his respiratory affliction.|| |