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What about Stage 16?(10 posts)

What about Stage 16?cyclejim
Jul 21, 2003 9:25 PM
I just checked out the profile at It has two pretty good climbs but its nearly all downhill for about the last 60k. Any chances for anything special on Wednesday?
re: What about Stage 16?cyclejim
Jul 21, 2003 9:26 PM
# Kilometre 67.5: Col du Soudet (14.1 kilometres at 7.5 percent)
# Kilometre 98: Col du Larrau (2.4 kilometres at 10.5 percent)
# Kilometre 110: Col de Bagarguy (8.8 kilometres at 9.2 percent)
# Kilometre 118.5: Col de Burdincurutcheta (2.2 kilometres at 6.2 percent)
Highly unlikelyMel Erickson
Jul 22, 2003 6:28 AM
With such a long, generally downhill, run into the finish even Petachhi could catch up!
From whom?mohair_chair
Jul 22, 2003 8:20 AM
Forget about another Armstrong/Ullrich clash. Stage 16 is a poor choice for that, although if Ullrich attacks on the Tourmalet, who knows what else he'll do.

Tomorrow's race is a classic breakaway situation. Look for an escape from guys in the Laurant Jalabert mold. Guys who can climb and survive a long breakaway. The ideal guy for this is Dario Frigo, but he's not racing the Tour. Look also for guys on teams that haven't won anything, especially French. Walter Beneteau, Laurent Dufaux, Laurent Brochard, David Moncoutie, Cédric Vasseur. I'd expect Alexandre Botcharov to go, too. Personally, my pick is Mario Aerts.

It could be special, just in a different way.
you forgot Virenquecyclopathic
Jul 22, 2003 12:54 PM
he does need all those mnt king points, you know ;)
Nope, just counted him outmohair_chair
Jul 22, 2003 2:26 PM
Virenque has his prizes and I don't expect him to go out for more. If he does go, I suspect it will be to help his teammates Michael Rogers or Paolo Bettini score a win. Those guys have been extremely loyal to him and payback would be nice. That's not Virenque's style, so I wouldn't hold my breath.

I should have mentioned Bettini originally. He could win tomorrow if he's not too worn out.
Jul 22, 2003 2:34 PM
he is french and french love him. He will go out for points but I seriously doubt he has a stage in him.
I knowmohair_chair
Jul 22, 2003 2:41 PM
I was just there, and the number of people who made "Allez Richard" banners was amazing. He has a huge following. For some reason, so does Patrice Halgand. Halgand and Virenque were painted all over the Col de la Ramaz. Halgand is another guy who could win tomorrow. That's it--I've made my picks. I'm still going with Mario Aerts.
Guys, Virenque's already clinched the mountain competition...BergMann
Jul 22, 2003 7:10 PM
all he has to do is make it to Paris in one piece.
re: What about Stage 16?cross bro
Jul 22, 2003 8:45 AM
Very tough stage.
I rode it last week as it was L'Etape stage for 2003.
The Col de Bargagui has the toughest section of this years tour. Although the average gradient is less than the Soudet, there is a 3km section of 15%.
The run in in far from flat. After a steep descent, the last 60km is a sucession of short steepish rollers, which will take their toll.
There could be a few surprises, even from the big hitters.
Would have been ideal for Brochard or Millar, but both seem to be well off form.