|Does anyone believe Lance lost 15 pounds in one hour?||richpierce|
Jul 19, 2003 1:53 PM
|OK, I could believe someone could lose 15 pounds on a long stage- MAYBE. They should be dead or collapsed, unless, of course, they started at 500 pounds so it would be a smaller percentage of total body weight. But am I right in hearing it reported that Lance lost 15 pounds in the individual time trial? A pound every 4 minutes? Basically they are saying you could follow his line by the constant stream of perspiration wetting the pavement. I cannot believe we and the "reporters" are buying that explanation.|
Jul 19, 2003 2:06 PM
|That's what - a quart every seven or eight minutes? Makes me think of the final scene from the movie "Airplane."
So which of you were ready to go out and buy that Nike kit he was wearing? They ought to market as a weight loss device.
|I lost 7 pounds after taking in 187 ounces of H2o @ H-n-H.||Canidraftyou|
Jul 19, 2003 10:46 PM
|Do the math, I lost seven pounds after taking in 187 ounces of water during Hotter-n-Hell in 1999. If lance only took a half bottle, then he prob. lost 8 to 9 pounds. I think someone got the information wrong. From the time he stepped on the scale at the start of the Tour and stepping on the scale after the TT, he was prob. 15 less than he was from the start. My guess!!! No way he would be able to recover from that. Muscles need water like it needs protien.
IF HE DID LOOSE ALL THAT WEIGHT IN ONE RIDE, THEN HIS STAFF IS NOT THE PROFESSIONALS WE ALL THOUGHT THEY WERE. THATS NOT THINKING AHEAD. ITS A TRAINER ISSUE IF ITS TRUE!!!
|Twas only 9.5lbs... still dangerous... nm||spyderman|
Jul 20, 2003 12:56 AM
|re: Does anyone believe Lance lost 15 pounds in one hour?||mikemunday|
Jul 19, 2003 2:19 PM
|To quote Chris Carmichael from OLN TDF site "Lance Armstrong lost over six kilograms of body weight between waking up and finishing Stage 12 yesterday"
Just how stenuous was his pre race workout and other than running out of water on the stage, why didn't he stay hydrated. Overconfidence maybe.
|Likely a gross exaggeration and psychological ploy||Continental|
Jul 19, 2003 2:24 PM
|If he really lost 7 kg yesterday, the way he rode today would be the most amazing feat I've ever seen. Way beyond Tyler Hamiliton riding with a broken collarbone. If he did loose 7 kg, he must have had diarrhea or puked his guts out.|
|It's somewhat believable to me...||Halloween|
Jul 19, 2003 2:38 PM
|A pound every two minutes...well they were including warmup...but let's go ahead and call it that just for the TT. A pound of water is 2 cups. In high humidity, 100 degree weather, going at max effort, that seems possible to me.
In the winter, when I cross train at the gym, I use a stair-climber alot, and after 30 minutes there is a HUGE puddle of sweat on the floor (and that's in a 70 degree gym). I won't say it is a gallon down there but it is quite a lot.
|re: Does anyone believe Lance lost 15 pounds in one hour?||moving up|
Jul 19, 2003 2:44 PM
|One day? no, but in two or three weeks perhaps. He looked like a concentration camp survivor on the post-race interview with his cheeks caving in. It's one thing to be uber-buff like Ullrich is this year, but Lance is looking sick and too skinny. Compare the interview shots with the never ending commercials with him in them. Something else is going on with him physically. Still, to be sick and tired and come in second in the ITT or 4th today only is proof the man is a beast on the bike. Ullrich may take the game, and he's certainly earned it this year, but Lance is riding a race that everyone else would consider the best ride of their career.|
|i think he may have been dehydrated to start the tour.||rufus|
Jul 19, 2003 3:33 PM
|they said he picked up a stomach bug from his kids before the tour. so he may have come in a bit dehydrated, and because it's been so hot, it's been tough for him to replenish his fluid loss, and it all fell apart the day of the TT.|
|I know it's possible...||QUiTSPiNiNArOuND|
Jul 19, 2003 6:06 PM
|I did the same thing on a trainer at home for an hour. It must a been about 70 degrees indoors, it was cold and raining outside that day. Anyways i lost like five pounds, which is alot to me because im really small, average weight about 110. After i became tired ill, throwing up. Not pretty, ended going to the ER and taking in Iv fluids. I was sick for about two weeks, wated, completly depleted, i didn't even think about riding a bike until after a month.
So according to Coach Chris, i believe he said Lance lost 10 lb. not 15. It was hot, he was on an all out effort, he is weraing that damn helmet with barely anyventilation in it, and not water bottle to drink out of, i thinks its very believable.
|I know it's possible...||The The|
Jul 19, 2003 6:10 PM
|6 kilos is just over 13 pounds. 7 kilos is about 15.5 pounds. If Carmichael said more than 6 kilos, then Lance lost at least 13 pounds, and perhaps more in the range of 14 pounds.|
|This is what his website says||Chaz_cycles|
Jul 19, 2003 7:28 PM
|How bad was yesterday's heat and dehydration for Lance? He told Frankie Andreu after Stage 13, "I weighed 72 kilos (156 lbs) at the start of the stage and 66.5 kilos (146.5 lbs) at the end (an hour+ later) - some folks might call that life-threatening. This will take some time to recover from, but I am feeling better..."
Seems it was 9.5 lbs not 15. I did not convert the weight into lbs they did. My math says something different take 72 - 66.5 X 2.2 you get 12.1lbs, so it looks more like 12.1 to me.
|This is what his website says||cyclejim|
Jul 19, 2003 9:37 PM
|I think the heat IS getting to Lance. First he tells Frankie he lost 7 kilos on OLN(just over 15 pounds), now his website says he lost 9.5 pounds, and Chris Carmichael said something else. What the heck?|
|Been there, and...||Ron B|
Jul 19, 2003 9:13 PM
|I've been there. I went out on a very hot summer day in Oklahoma, not realizing how hot it was. I thought it was around 101 degrees (turned out to be 117!). I went out for 1.5 hours and lost 12 pounds. Thankfully I weighed 220 pounds at the beginning of the ride so it wasn't as substantial as what Lance would have lost.
Also if you look at Lance at the end of the time trial he is clearly dehydrated. Look at his mouth, it's white. In other words it's loaded with salt from his sweat and if I remember correctly he wasn't sweating all that much at the end of the stage compared to usual.
I can easily see him loosing 10-15 pounds in the heat that they have had to endure in one day when you include warm up and racing at their level of competition.
I can't believe they screwed up like that though and didn't have nearly enough water for him. Doesn't sound like postal at all.
|re: Does anyone believe Lance lost 15 pounds in one hour?||snowman3|
Jul 20, 2003 10:32 AM
|It MIGHT be possible to lose that much water, depending on what number you are using ... 9lbs, 12lbs, 15lbs? If you include warm up time I might believe 9lbs of water. 15lbs is a bit of a stretch. I'm wondering if you could still function after losing over 2 gals of water?
I've always heard (assumed) that 1 gal of water weighs ~7lbs. So 15lbs of water is over 2 gals.
I weigh 165 and used to lose 4-5lbs when I would run 12-15 miles. It was the winter in arizona, so temps were 50 degrees or something like that. I would never get sick, but often times I would shiver and be really sleepy for several hours. With higher temps I can see sweating out 10-15lbs of water, but I would think I'd be really sick if you didn't rehydrate.