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so what has today shown us?????wheelsucker
Jul 18, 2003 7:44 AM
LA is not the same LA as in years past. Ullrich will probably win if he can keep up in the mtns. maybe LA should have laid the law down on day 1 in the mtns, but if he isn't as strong as he has been in the past all he may be able to do is cover Jan, which may explain why he didn't lay the law down already. And with so many climbers relatively close to LA can he cover every move? Mayo will probably attack to get back into contention as well, though he proved today he can't tt that well, but magic happens when you can podium in paris.
i don't think soyeah right
Jul 18, 2003 7:51 AM

look at jan, he's huge, not fat. translation good tt, but 1 minute down on mountain top finish. remember, he couldn't stick with lance. if you look at a '97 picture of jan in the tour and one now, you'll understand what i mean. lance put in a good effort, but jan was too much for everybody, it doesn't mean that lance was having a bad day, he just got beat.
i don't think soThe Human G-Nome
Jul 18, 2003 8:04 AM
Lance had a bad day when you consider he could only put 30 seconds into Vino. understand, i am only comparing him to LA of old.
Mayo really can't time trial?Coolhand
Jul 18, 2003 7:54 AM
Drops 4 full minutes. Ouch! Jan Ulrich (many excuses aside) has not shown anything in the mountains. He stands to lose a minute or so to Mayo/Armstrong in the sharp painful climbs of the Pyranees which do not suit his style.

Looks like Mayo will get another free shot up the road with a 4 minute gap. But Armstrong is likely to go with him this time. The next 4 stages will show all.

Still a great ride from Ulrich who hasn't done much since the TTT. Expect a shocked look as hs gets dropped on the steeps again.

I agreePaulCL
Jul 18, 2003 8:00 AM
The arrangement of the stages this year (first ITT coming AFTER the Alps) forced Lance to ride to conserve energy in the first half. I would suspect we will see at least one attempt at a crushing mountain stage attack by Lance this weekend. If he doesn't put at least another minute into Jan in the mountains, Lance may lose.

But either way...this is a lot of fun. I wish I had OLN!
sort of agreeFrith
Jul 18, 2003 8:04 AM
Jan will get dropped a bit on the wall like inclines. He doesn't have the acceleration or the feathery pedal technique...I think what you'll see is him cover his losses on the more steady gradual climbs. He'll use them to his advantage by maintaining an unmatchable pace and maybe even grab a bit of time on LA. The final TT is going to decide this race. LA will win. It will be a nail biter though.
Agree, and lets not forget that JU isn't as good on theRhodyRider
Jul 18, 2003 8:27 AM
descents as LA, either (think back two years...)
LA and Johan are both crafty enough to recognize that they have to break Ullrich's legs on the sharpest climbs, and then extend the advantage by having LA become "Il Falco" on the descents. My my my, this is fun!
has anyone won a tour with no individual stage wins?tarwheel
Jul 18, 2003 8:09 AM
I'm beginning to wonder if armstrong will win an individual stage, although I still think he's best positioned for the overall leader. Ullrich was incredible in the ITT and can limit his losses in the mountains, but I don't think he can take major time out of lance in the pyrenees unless lance has a bad day or a crash. Vinokourov is looking more and more impressive with each stage.
Lemond in 90(?) nmweiwentg
Jul 18, 2003 8:17 AM
We're fickle, our predictions take a 180 degree turn every day.Spoiler
Jul 18, 2003 10:36 AM
Mercifully, nobody here has enough time on their hands to pick apart and analyze how all our predictions throughout the Tour have changed since stage one.
As does the race (nm)James OCLV
Jul 18, 2003 10:41 AM