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Unbuckled helmets??neo
Jul 15, 2003 10:39 AM
Pardon me if this has been discussed already, but this is my first time back to this forum in quite some time.

I know they mandated the use of helmets except for the last finish if it ends on a climb. But why are the riders unbuckling their helmets on prior climbs?? I can't imagine this "cools" them any more than if they were buckled??

What gives??

I don't know,TJeanloz
Jul 15, 2003 10:45 AM
Having a black strap across your face can't really be cooler than not having that strap. Keep in mind, it has been really hot on the course over the last few days.
re: Unbuckled helmets??BrokenSpoke
Jul 15, 2003 11:07 AM
I think it is more of a comfort issue. I race primarily crits and the helmet strap can feel a little snug during maximum efforts, mouth wide open, heart rate at 180+, etc... I would think that with the effort being extended on the mountain climbs, the riders are removing the strap to ease the discomfort.
re: Unbuckled helmets??Spoiler
Jul 15, 2003 12:10 PM
1. They don't know how to buckle them.
2. They are uncomfortable with the strap
3. They don't want to wear helmets, so they are purposefully skirting the rules.

Now if those who made the helmet rule were really serious about protecting the riders, they'd force them to wear the helmet in such a way as to actually protect them. If they allow the riders to ride without the buckles strapped, they're saying they really don't care about the safety, they just want the cameras to show rides with helmets on, putting on a good show of responsibility.

Just wait until someone crashes with the straps unbuckled, the helmet goes flying, and the rider sustains an injury. When the cameras catch this, you'll see a new rule fining those who ride without the buckles properly fastened.
Jul 15, 2003 12:39 PM
They are just unfastening the straps while
i climbing
the big mountains. Video showed the riders fastening the straps as they went over the crest of the climbs. No one is going down without their helmet fastened.

No reason to start rewriting the rules yet.
Jul 15, 2003 1:55 PM
I saw riders with them unbuckled on the flat stages. Most of the accidents we've had have been on flat stages. The only reason they buckle them on the decent is because the helmet would be in danger of falling off.

If you've ever had kids you know that often, when you tell them to tie their shoes, they either tie them half-azzed or they tie them and untie them as soon as they're out of sight. It's the rebellious nature.

In the end, I think it should be up to the riders to decide and there should be no "rule" in pro cycling. But as long as the authorities insist they must have the rule to protect the riders, they should enforce the rule to protect the riders, not just to make a good "show" of it.
Jul 16, 2003 9:33 AM
so, you believe in auto racing helmets, rollcages, and fire protective suits shouldnt be mandatory? Each rider/driver should make that decision for theirself?
Jul 16, 2003 11:13 AM
Definitely, YES. Suicide can't be prohibited.
There is an obvious answer.Sintesi
Jul 15, 2003 2:02 PM
They don't like them.
A couple new optionsSpoiler
Jul 16, 2003 5:19 PM
Pro cyclists riding without a helmet are fined or penalized. If a rider's helmet falls off because he didn't buckle it, he should get the same fine or penalty.

The riders can wear the helmets on their heads unbuckled. It is up to them to buckle them when they feel they need the full protection of the helmet.

Another option would be to require all riders to at least "carry" a helmet with them at all times. This would eliminate the confusion of domestiques and team cars collecting or passing out helmets en masse. It gives the riders to exercise their own intelligence and wear the helmet when they feel the conditions warrent it.

Before this rule, you'd see rider wearing helmets on decents and during dangerous finishes, but not on the slow flats or climbs. They are smart enough to wear helmets when there is a reasonable need for them.

I've seen tv shots of Mario Cippolini having teammates bring him a helmet towards the end of a stage, in preparation for a sprint. Cippo was smart enough to wear the helmet when he felt he needed it.
The riders can wear the helmets on their heads unbuckled. It is up to them to buckle them when they feel they need the full protection of the helmet.