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This doesn't look like a man with broken collar...(7 posts)

This doesn't look like a man with broken collar...spyderman
Jul 14, 2003 11:07 PM
bone. Does it? (Photo taken after ninth stage... )
re: This doesn't look like a man with broken collar...bjarne
Jul 15, 2003 12:44 AM
Well there is some theories, that it was a publicity stunt, and that the bone was never broken.
On danish television, they have shown the x-rays, and the official doctor of the tour, was the first to see them (after stage 1), and he put out a press release, that said it was broken.
Later new x-rays have shown that the bone was not broken all the way through, but had a v shaped fracture.

Faced with the "accusasions of fraud", Bjarne Riis smiled, and offered to bet a couple of millions.
re: This doesn't look like a man with broken collar...BigFatSal
Jul 15, 2003 3:11 AM
As someone who's had a.)a broken collarbone and b.)a cracked collarbone, although painful, it is possible to ride with a cracked collarbone. Especially after you're warmed up and get the blood flowing thru the area it all seems to loosen up and become less painful... During the night and early morning is when it's terribly painful and stiff. If the collarbone is snapped completely it's pretty tough to ride because then you're structurally just not able to support the arm/shoulder very well. Since I've heard via OLN that Tyler has "cracked" his collarbone I don't think there's really any scandal here. Seems pretty upfront to me. And that technically is a "fracture" anyway. And certainly quite painful. I bet he's having a hard time sleeping....
re: This doesn't look like a man with broken collar...taar44
Jul 15, 2003 5:41 AM
It's not broken. It's fractured. Big difference.
Jul 15, 2003 5:54 AM
Did you see the Xrays doc? Just kidding but I have broken and fractured bones before....they both hurt like hell. I had a spiral fracture of the collar was described to me by the sports doc as telling me if may be more sensitive than a break because the tissue and surrounding muscles are still attempting to hold it together. I was thankful it wasn't broken because I didn't want the surgery. Breaks are commonly plated to assist the healing and the recovery can be quite quicker with a break and plate. As a sidenote, I rode the bike 2 days after the accident and I raced 7 days after the fracture with good results. So it is possible to come back quickly.
Jul 15, 2003 1:46 PM
It is amazing, and I´m sure it hurts like hell.

I was only telling you that it´s not a "publicity stunt", to play down his chances in the GC
His "voodoo doctor" has agrees with you, and says, that the reasson he can ride, is that that he (the doctor), has loosened the muscles around the fracture, and most of the pain comes from the tissue surrounding the break.

The doctor also believes that it will heal way faster when you "remove" the tension around the collarbone.
Sounds like he is hurting bad today (stage 10)Psalm 147-10_11
Jul 15, 2003 7:35 AM
Cyclingnews daily coverage reports that Tyler was looking bad before the start of today's stage.

"A few of you have asked about Tyler Hamilton today; before the start of Stage 10, he emerged from the CSC team bus looking very stiff and really in pain. He is definitely not a happy camper at the moment, and his mood was markedly different than on previous days.
CSC directors Bjarne Riis and Sean Yates are preoccupied at the moment and the vibe is not good. It's hard to say what's going to happen but Hamilton will probably finish today, and then it is a matter of what the rest day brings."

I sure hope he's okay. I'm hoping he can give Lance a run for his money.