|I can't watch the wreck anymore.||Spoiler|
Jul 14, 2003 3:37 PM
|Geez, I've never seen such a clear helicoptor camera view of a crash. Sun is shining bright, with hard shadows, so you can see how hot and sticky the road surface is.
At slo-mo, you can see and feel him losing control of the rear wheel as it suddenly squirts to the left. I can't tell whether he had applied the rear brake or not.
As he starts to countersteer, he also locks up the FRONT brake, which as you know, is not a good thing.
His body and his bike lurch foreward, the rear wheel leaves the ground, like in a manual, and it swing back around to the right.
At this point you can see the rear tire has come off the rim. When the bare-rimmed rear wheel slams back down onto the pavement, Jose gets bucked off like a cowboy.
Beloki executes a two-point landing, on the point of his right hip and on his extended right elbow. He's traveling fast and his elbow gets caught under his sliding body.
I can FEEL this. I've had a compound fracture of the elbow and have the ti pin to prove it. In a seperate accident, I came into a downhill turn too hot, locked up the front, landed hard on the rear rim, and shaved a few mm of flesh off the hip.
It's funny, when you do this (slide on your skin) your first reaction is to get the skin off the road. When you don't do this right away, you know you're hurt bad.
Then from the ground camera, when his teammates were crowded around him on the ground, you can hear him screaming and groaning.
It's sort of like the film coverage of WTC. The first time watching was shock, second time was horror, beyond that, it starts to do more damage than good to watch.
|It was one of the saddest momonts in sports.||gala7516|
Jul 14, 2003 4:27 PM
|That clip from eurosport.com almost made me want to cry. When Beloki is on the ground weeping I cannot begin to imagine the pain he is feeling.
I wasn't rooting for him, but I am going to miss his attacks on LA.
I wish him well.
Jul 14, 2003 4:50 PM
|Absolutely horrible. I'm rooting for Lance all the way, but this truly saddens me. He was giving it his all this year and made the alp stages some of the most memorable in recent years. Terrible way to end it. Lets hope he doesn't have permanent damage and is back next year.|
|re: I can't watch the wreck anymore.||grettm|
Jul 14, 2003 5:04 PM
|Remember what Phil and Paul talked about in the earlier stages.... that Joseba was to re-evaluated his career if he didn't win the tour this year.... this maybe the last we see of him....
I thought he was boring last year and didn't really challenge armstrong. This year, he scared me a bit.
|Joseba deserved much better||jptaylorsg|
Jul 14, 2003 5:09 PM
|Truly a tragedy. He was taking it to Lance a bit, unlike the hovering Ullrich (even if Beloki's attacks weren't breaking LA, which they weren't, at least they were the ones LA was reacting to). No disrespect to Ullrich, but it was fun to watch. And he was leading the chase of Vino. Really pushing it. None of the "conservative" Beloki just hoping for a podium spot. Gotta feel for the guy. Wish him a speedy, full recovery.|
|Some good advice for all cyclists from Chris Carmichael...||gala7516|
Jul 14, 2003 5:30 PM
|"Beloki's crash is a reminder of the ever-present danger in bike racing. As attentive and skilled as the riders are, accidents are a fact of life cycling. One moment you're concerned with containing a breakaway by Alexander Vinokorouv, and the next you're lying on the ground with multiple fractures. At times like these, racing goals seem trivial and we are all just hoping Joseba Beloki is all right and will fully recover from his injuries."|
|highsiding it is always ugly||lonefrontranger|
Jul 14, 2003 6:57 PM
|Now, I wasn't going 70kph down an alpine descent, more like 40kph thru a flat turn in a local crit, but that is precisely the same thing I did in the crit last year when I broke my collarbone, and the cringe factor for me watching this happen was intense. Locked the back wheel, started fishtailing, overcompensated with the front, and then WHAM!! When you highside crash like this (ask any motorcycle racer) it's like the bike is a big lever that accelerates you right into the ground. It's an ungodly blow, and I can't imagine doing it at those speeds. What nearly made me cry was seeing Jaksche (??) go ashen and the sick look on his face after he stopped to wait for Beloki to get up, then saw the damage. I knew it was bad then.
I went into the LBS to pick up some bits today and the vultures were replaying it over... and over... and over... again.
I'm no big Lance fan (FORZA TYLER!!), but I do respect him, and daggone that was a grand show of handling skills.
Jul 14, 2003 7:37 PM
|He was on the attack all day long. At the start of the day, he was sitting in 10th place overall, just 3:19 behind Lance.
Jaksche and Acavedo were right behind the crash. They let the group ride on and only moved on when it was certain Joseba was out of the race.
They finished 3:19 behind, dropping Jaksche to 18th place, seven minutes behind.
|just heard he broke his femur; ouch nm||DougSloan|
Jul 14, 2003 7:45 PM
|just heard he broke his femur; ouch nm||Spoiler|
Jul 14, 2003 8:56 PM
|You get used to watching crashes and concentrating on the head, knees, or arms of the riders. After Pantani in the Giro, and Hamilton in this Tour, you also get used to seeing riders get back up. After first seeing it, I thought he'd get back up. If he could recover physically and mentally, and do the Vuelta or the World's, he's got a martyr/hero's fan club waiting for him.|
|do the Vuelta?||fcebedo|
Jul 15, 2003 12:04 AM
|2004 or 2005. This boy is really hurt. Let's not talk about him racing On September 6.
|how quickly can one recover from a broken femur?||weiwentg|
Jul 15, 2003 3:15 PM
|I hope it's fast. never broke mine and never want to.|
|And people wonder why I like a tight fitting tire. (nm)||Al1943|
Jul 14, 2003 8:08 PM
|re: I can't watch the wreck anymore.||Pygme|
Jul 14, 2003 8:30 PM
|The crash was a shame, no doubt. But comparing it to the WTC? I cant go that far, not in a millions years!|
|re: I can't watch the wreck anymore.||Spoiler|
Jul 14, 2003 8:50 PM
|I was comparing the initial shock, not the overall enormity, of the events.|
|re: I can't watch the wreck anymore.||Pygme|
Jul 14, 2003 10:30 PM
|I can put it on par with Joe Theisman's broken leg. But, once again, it pales in comparison with the WTC. Not in the ballpark. The same city with a ballpark. Not even on the same planet with a ballpak.|
|WTC? WTF...||Frank Tuesday|
Jul 15, 2003 2:03 PM
|How did you get onto that? In the upper ranks of mass human tragety, it may crack the top 100. It isn't even on the same planet as Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Birkenau, Khmer Rouge, or countless other examples.
I think this was about sport.