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If anyone had told you this would be the GC after Stage 9 ..OldEdScott
Jul 14, 2003 8:02 AM
... you might have thought them nutty.

General Classification
1 001 ARMSTRONG Lance USA USP in 40h 15' 26"
2 028 VINOKOUROV Alexandre KAZ TEL at 00' 21"
3 171 MAYO Iban ESP EUS at 01' 02"
4 031 MANCEBO Francisco ESP BAN at 01' 37"
5 071 HAMILTON Tyler USA CSC at 01' 52"
6 131 ULLRICH Jan GER TBI at 02' 10"
7 081 BASSO Ivan ITA FAS at 02' 25"
8 002 HERAS Roberto ESP USP at 02' 28"
9 179 ZUBELDIA Haimar ESP EUS at 03' 25"
10 036 MENCHOV Denis RUS BAN at 03' 45"
we think your nutty anyway!ClydeTri
Jul 14, 2003 8:05 AM
j/k :~)
This Tour is MAKING me nutty. It's nuttier thanOldEdScott
Jul 14, 2003 8:14 AM
Doug Sloan's politics!
re: I'd say what Lance is doing up there?cyclopathic
Jul 14, 2003 8:25 AM
re: If anyone had told you this would be the GC after Stage 9 ..NeedSpeed
Jul 14, 2003 8:48 AM
I agree! I said it a few weeks ago that this thing was gonna be close because multiple teams would form alliances to attack Postal. It's obvious that CSC and Tyler are in an alliance with Postal. But for the most part it seems like teams are trying to attack and weaken Postal and isolate Lance with the climbers in-form who then take turns attacking him. Here's my original post:

Chris Radders "LeTour 2003: Pick your Podium" 6/24/03 7:07am
I wouldn't pat myself on the back yet...TJeanloz
Jul 14, 2003 8:54 AM
The Tour isn't even half over. There hasn't been an ITT yet, and only two mountain stages (three if you count today). The race isn't really any closer than it should be at this point. The final GC will be seriously different than today's.
I wouldn't pat myself on the back yet...NeedSpeed
Jul 14, 2003 9:31 AM
No back patting. Only that I said teams would form allegiances in order to weaken Postal and then isolate and attack Lance. That has obviously been occurring. I also said that Postal would probably form alleigiances with some of the American-led teams like CSC. After Levi dropped out, Rabobank hasn't been much of a factor. I think Lance would like it if CSC and Bianchi helped control the peloton and chase attacks and then let the best man win among Lance, Hamilton and Ullrich. But Mayo, Vino and ONCE are trying to spoil the party.
Would they?TJeanloz
Jul 14, 2003 8:57 AM
As you know Ed, I try not to agree with you on anything. But who in the top 10 is not believable? Armstrong we expected, Vinokourov won the TdSuisse, Mayo won the Dauphine, Mancebo was a contender last year, Tyler was expected to be in there, Ullrich was expected to be in there, Basso was expected to give Armstrong a run, Heras is no surprise. I'll give you the last two - but Beloki should be there.

This race, while the day-to-day of it is exciting, is not as dramatic as people are making it out to be on the macro level.
More who's NOT there. nmOldEdScott
Jul 14, 2003 9:07 AM
Simoni and GdG?TJeanloz
Jul 14, 2003 9:14 AM
I suppose. But it's not a complete shock - not everyone rides well every year.
And Beloki.OldEdScott
Jul 14, 2003 10:21 AM
Absolutely, but bad luck is par for the courseTJeanloz
Jul 14, 2003 10:25 AM
Some contender was going to crash out before the 10th stage, just a question of who.
I disagree! I disagree!OldEdScott
Jul 14, 2003 10:44 AM
I don't really; it's just a reflex from the non-cycling board.
Hey TJ: Didn't Lance win the Dauphine Libere, w/Mayo 2nd? nmDale Brigham
Jul 14, 2003 9:16 AM
Good point,TJeanloz
Jul 14, 2003 9:26 AM
You are correct. I have too many things running through my head right now. Either way, 2nd place at the Dauphine ain't bad.
TJ: That's the only thing I can remember...Dale Brigham
Jul 14, 2003 9:41 AM
...obscure race results. My own cell phone number? No.

Hey, I think all of the state of MA (Mass.) must be mighty proud of Tyler H., Marblehead's own favorite son. You should all bask in his toughness (as Texans like me have done for years in Lance's glow).

Can Lance "hold the Mayo" back? Time will tell.

TJ: That's the only thing I can remember...TJeanloz
Jul 14, 2003 9:57 AM
New England bike racers pride themselves on their toughness. We are proud Tyler comes out of this mold. I remember a few years ago in Colorado, when they announced that a race would be cancelled because there was ~3" of snow at the top of a climb, the displaced New England contingent (which included Tyler) looked around like: "you've got to be kidding, we can race in this". The Californians were already halfway back to L.A....
A marble head and an iron will. Wicked proud. Just hope he128
Jul 14, 2003 10:07 AM
doesn't cause any futher damage. I'm sure he's playing it smart though.

"From the North Shore to the South Shore. To the middle of the Commonwealth. Rockin for you." -JP Project
Its funny to watch the news(sports)castPatM
Jul 14, 2003 10:10 AM
And have them say things like "Lance is in the lead, but how about that Tyler Hamilton...." - I think I even saw an interview with his father. The newscaster's still don't get bike racing but at least its getting covered.
Yeah, I'd say Tyler gets more coverage than Lance here (nm)TJeanloz
Jul 14, 2003 10:14 AM
Still, it has been more dramatic than in 2002 and 2001. nmmBruno S
Jul 14, 2003 10:57 AM