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Ullrich: Did he really change his pedaling?(13 posts)

Ullrich: Did he really change his pedaling?Coot72
Jul 10, 2003 10:00 AM
Here's an article from cyclingnews this past winter:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/?id=2003/knees

I don't have the luxury of watching the Tour on TV, but it will be interesting to see if Ullrich really did make some changes to his techniques. As I see it, even if Jan has the same power to weight ratio as Lance, he doesn't seem to accelerate like Lance can. In the finale of stages like L'Alp D'Huez, Lance can rocket away with one big acceleration.

Velonews also has a great article about how Lance and USPostal set up their strategy for the mountains. THe article is in the 2003 TDF guide.

As much as I would like to see a battle to Paris, my sense is that Lance can accelerate on climbs like no other can. US Postal has 3 climbers to set him up to blast the last few kms, and so we are probably in for another dominating performance.

Although some say it's boring, we should enjoy it while it lasts, and admire it rather than to judge it too much. It's up to the other competitors to step up, and so far they are still trying to figure it out.

Coot
other factors?DougSloan
Jul 10, 2003 10:06 AM
Lots of factors matter, besides power/weight. What about power at LT, max power, muscular endurance, ability to burn fat and conserve glycogen, not to mention ability and desire to endure pain.

Doug
Appreciation.Jon Billheimer
Jul 10, 2003 10:11 AM
I like Coot's comment about appreciating what we're seeing, because we're likely not going to witness an equally dominating performance in cycling like this for a long, long time! I remember the tv announcers often saying the same thing during Gretzky's heyday years in hockey. It's good advice. Sit up. Pay attention. Enjoy and appreciate. We're witnessing something very special.
agreeDougSloan
Jul 10, 2003 10:18 AM
Like Edwin Moses, 122 consecutive wins...

Can't think of too many equally dominating.

Doug
And the day will comeOldEdScott
Jul 10, 2003 10:19 AM
when, suddenly, Lance cracks and comes unwound like a broken clock. It happened to all the great champions, it will happen to LA, and will happen to all who haven't yet thrown leg over toptube.

On that sad day, we'll remember the years of 'boring domination' with profound appreciation and nostalgia. What pleasure we've gotten from this great run!
unless he's smartDougSloan
Jul 10, 2003 10:39 AM
If he can delay the inevitable beyond the 04 tour, then he might win 6 and wisely retire. I'd like that.

Doug
rarely happensOldEdScott
Jul 10, 2003 10:43 AM
but I agree.
rarely happenst-bill
Jul 10, 2003 11:48 AM
You're right... it rarely happens, but LA has already said that's what he will do. If he wins this year, I think he will race the TdF again next year, and then call it quits. Hopefully he won't pull a Michael Jordan and retire 3 times!
You should add 'politics'.sacheson
Jul 10, 2003 11:07 AM
In the pre-race comments made from Saeco (Simoni), ONCE team (Saiz), Bianchi, and Telecom (Zabel), many of the Euro teams are making small "pacts" to work together and break Armstrong and the Postal team. If enough GC threats from different teams get organized, it would take a VERY strong Postal team to fight off the combined threat.
Well....funknuggets
Jul 10, 2003 2:24 PM
That all works fine and good until you get spit off the back. When you are climbing and you get dropped like a stone on Huez... you can make all the 'pacts' you want, it isnt going to get you up the hill any faster...

funny, I just called the Alpe d'Huez a hill.... anyway.
my point was ...sacheson
Jul 10, 2003 7:27 PM
... if the Euros have gotten the attitude none of them will win the race with Armstrong there, they might team up with a "defeat Armstrong" mentality ... you know, the "if any Euro wins, it's better than an American doing it".

And with riders like Simoni, Vinukerov (sp?), Laiseka, Beloki, Ullrich, etc. that can climb with LA, the chances of valid threats getting dropped like a stone is pretty slim. If two or three GC contenders get together and attack him, but not each other, he might be put on the defensive. It might not work so well for Lance.

Of course, we will be able to determine all of that on Sunday (it is Sunday, right?).

Aside from that ... I think I'm going to gracefully bow out of a debate with anyone that refers to Everest ... erm ... I mean AdH as a hill. ;-) later.
Sure other things matter...Dwayne Barry
Jul 10, 2003 12:30 PM
but I can guarantee you that if we subjected every rider to standardized ramped power test (like a Conconi test) and used that (along with rider/bike weight) to predict the finishing order of the top 30 guys (i.e. everybody going for it) to Alp d'Huez on Sunday, you'd pretty much hit it. Power at LT (during a ramped test), is typically the power used when stating someone's power/weight ratio. And finally, power at LT is going to be reflective of glycogen usage. If rider A has a power at LT of 400 watts, and rider's B is 300. When you're climbing the penultimate mountain at a tempo that takes lets say 275 watts. (Assuming each rider weighs the same) Rider A would be able to make that 275 watts by burning a greater ratio of fats to glycogen, and oxidizing more of that glycogen then rider B because rider A is operating at a lesser % of his power at LT.

And finally Lance has said it best, "It's easy to have the motivation when you have the legs."
I thought I remember reading somewhere...Dwayne Barry
Jul 10, 2003 12:35 PM
in prior years that he tried upping his cadence and it actually hurt his power at LT, I guess we'll see on Saturday.