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After 120 miles of flat-out racing ...(9 posts)

After 120 miles of flat-out racing ...Humma Hah
Jul 10, 2003 7:38 AM
... do you suppose everyone feels a great sense of accomplishment? Assuming the posted stage 5 results are correct, I see the top 185 riders were within 1 second of the stage winner, with about 7 riders breaking from the peloton in the last 1 km?

The only significant change is about 11 riders had bad days?
same timeDougSloan
Jul 10, 2003 8:08 AM
They aren't really 1 second apart. Everyone in a continuous group gets the same time, even if they are minutes back.

I was trying to picture 185 riders, ten abreast, 33 mph ...Humma Hah
Jul 10, 2003 8:25 AM
... blasting past the finish line. I haven't seen the video clips, but the description sounds like that was pretty close to the truth. I can picture the whole peloton probably passed in a couple of seconds, unless they finished on a steep climb.

I imagine the spectators caught quite a breeze.
bell curveDougSloan
Jul 10, 2003 8:59 AM
Typically, it's sort of a bell curve at the finish, with a few fighting for the win, then a big group, then the stragglers, but all contiguous enough so that they get the same time. By the time the mid point of the group is crossing the line, they aren't going very fast at all (relatively), as the riders are stacking up a bit past the finish.

Which is, of course, one reason why ...Humma Hah
Jul 10, 2003 11:33 AM
... they time them all as a bloc. Imagine that one team pulls out ahead and then stops one meter past the finish line!

Today's start was flying ... I gather something like an Indy start behind a pace car. Funny that they wouldn't end it the same way ... nobody stops until half a klick past the finish so it doesn't end in a fizzle. You would think a cool-down would be a good idea.
One peculiar point ... finisher 189 ...Humma Hah
Jul 10, 2003 11:40 AM
From today's standings on that site you gave us yesterday,

189 166 MILESI Marco, is shown finishing at 0:00:00, but he's listed AFTER riders at 31 seconds back. Is this a mistake, or did he get some kind of penalty?

They've also dropped the listings of some riders who finished further back. Disqualified? DNF?
read the commissaire's reports if you can find themlonefrontranger
Jul 10, 2003 10:18 PM
Riders, especially the domestiques who could care less about their G.C. time get all kinds of penalties all the time. Sometimes on they'll have a "commissaire's report" of all the riders who were fined / penalized time for various infractions. These include things like peeing in public, taking too much draft from the caravan, getting "sticky bottles" i.e. an unauthorised pull from the team car, unsportsmanlike conduct (giving crap back to the commissaires when they warn you about doing something wrong, etc...) and many, many more. Mario C. was always getting fined for not wearing appropriate team kit, and I think sometimes they awarded him time penalties as well.

Jonathon Vaughters wrote a great diary entry about all the various ways he worked the "gray areas" to the utter limit on a stage when he was suffering particularly badly last year. After yet another minor crash where he really wasn't hurt all that badly, he waited until there was a fairly long and hard but uncategorised climb (can't take assistance on a cat climb), and went back to the doctor's car to have his arm bandaged... and bandaged... and bandaged... all the while he's hanging onto the car and being pulled up the hill at 35 kph ;-)

Speaking of hanging onto team cars, anyone catch that footage (sorry) of Joseba Beloki getting his toenails cut?
There were a few seconds of the pedicure on the news ...Humma Hah
Jul 11, 2003 6:24 AM
... bizarre! Quite a contortion act. If I tried that, my legs would probably cramp. I've gotta believe he must have been quite uncomfortable in his shoes to have resorted to such a fix.
Found answer to Marco Milesi mystery on CycleNews ...Humma Hah
Jul 11, 2003 11:34 AM
RE: why Milesi finished more than 30 sec back but got credit for finishing with the peloton ...

"Marco Milesi (Caldirola SO.DI.): Victim of a puncture in the final kilometre, was credited same time as the winner"