|A true competitor.........||Dave Hickey|
Jul 7, 2003 10:41 AM
|Tyler is the man. Picture after today's stage|
|The Legend Begins... nm||Velojon|
Jul 7, 2003 10:51 AM
|How does he ride ...||Crash|
Jul 7, 2003 10:53 AM
|with balls that big! I know he's not fighting cancer, but you still have to give it up for this guy. I pray that he stays upright and finishes well.|
|How does he ride ...||bjarne|
Jul 7, 2003 11:15 AM
|I couldn´t agree more.
Tyler is "Denmarks" best chance of a new tour winner, and yesterday Bjarne Riis allmost cried on danish television, and because he thought that it was over, he reveiled that they had bigger ambitions, than a podium finish for Tyler.
Well today we see that Tyler is a real Campione, and has the right mental attitude to one day win the Tour.
Another "secret" is that he is being treated by a danish "withdoctor", who is using needles and Chinees herbs.
He was the one who got Tyler through the Giro last year, and helped Riis in 96, so there is still hope.
|I'd bet his team would kill for him nm||cyclopathic|
Jul 7, 2003 11:28 AM
|No way this goes on,||TJeanloz|
Jul 7, 2003 11:31 AM
|Tyler is putting on a strong face, but he's not going to last much longer. You have to work on the assumption that he's trying to get to the TTT, where he will completely blow himself in support of Sastre. A broken collarbone is just too painful to ride 3 weeks with.
Which leads to the other possibility - what if the injury is faked? Obviously it's seriously bruised or something, but if everybody writes off Tyler as too injured to finish, when he's really not, he could be the dark horse at the end... Or maybe that's just wishful thinking.
Jul 7, 2003 11:56 AM
|that's just gotta be the killer, with the position he has to be in on those aero bars, stretched out over the bike like that. i don't see how he can keep that position with a broken collarbone.
forget about pulling on the bars while climbing. really gutsy by tyler, but i can't see him lasting another week.
Jul 7, 2003 12:00 PM
|heals really fast, and he only had hairline crack. Do not write him off yet.|
|Not what I heard,||TJeanloz|
Jul 7, 2003 12:06 PM
|There are conflicting reports about the extent of the injury. I heard broken in two places and fixed with surgery (though I doubt it was that serious). Either way, it hurts like hell.|
|Giro last year||DougSloan|
Jul 7, 2003 12:18 PM
|He rode most of the Giro last year with a broken collar bone, and got second. He ground his teeth down from the pain so much he had to have 12 teeth capped.
I rode on the road 2 weeks after breaking a collar bone, and the first time I hit a bump it felt like someone was driving a spike into my shoulder.
Also, even if the break is only a hairline, with this type of blow you get trauma to much of the surrouding area, too, such as ribs and neck. The fracture itself is only a part of the problem.
My guess is that he retires from the race, but I could well be wrong in light of the '02 Giro.
|in Giro last year it was a broken right shoulder||velocity|
Jul 7, 2003 12:56 PM
|I've been scratching my head all day trying to figure out how Tyler managed to race today with a broken collarbone. If he can manage it, I'd love to see Tyler hang in there and have a great TdF and give everyone a run for the money.
What a horrible crash! I actually screamed out loud in horror. I saw the race live yesterday. Didn't find out till this am that Levi and Tyler were badly hurt. Why have a dangerous corner like that 500 yards from the finish?
Jul 7, 2003 1:57 PM
|collar bone is rarely broken with direct blow. More likely just landing hard on fully extended "locked" rigit arm. If you've got copy of Friel's bible (I think second one?) he talks about preventing it: rolling.
In Giro he broke a schoulder rotator, much more serios.
Now it hurts like hell either way.
|re: blow||feathers mcgraw|
Jul 7, 2003 3:54 PM
|Well, I've broken both with a direct blow to the shoulder, so I know it's possible. In both cases my ribs were so sore I had to avert sneezes with a really funny barking sound. The shoulder joint was even worse. I can't believe what he's doing. What's most amazing is that he's hanging in there to repay his teammates in the TTT. I have nothing but admiration for the guy.|
|but in the TTT||rufus|
Jul 7, 2003 4:38 PM
|he's got his forearms resting in those little cups, and every little road blemish gets transmitted in a straight line right to the shoulder.
at least on the regular bike, he can sit up, and his arms work as shock absorbers somewhat, and he can even favor the arm a lot. that won't be the case in the TTT.
he's gotta be the toughest guy riding today though.
|I would certainly need more than 3 layers of gel tape!||Iwannapodiumgirl|
Jul 7, 2003 3:35 PM
I would want my Mum and a big bowl of chicken soup!
|Where are those C-dale "Silk Roads" when you need them?||KG 361|
Jul 7, 2003 3:43 PM
|A suspension fork; yea, that's what he needs! What a competitor. Could you see any other type of professional athlete competeing with that type of injury? Most NBA/MLB pansies would be crying to their agents.|
|He is my hero and a ...||Live Steam|
Jul 7, 2003 7:46 PM
|a strong, tough American. I am not sure how long he can go for however. Today's stage was difficult and fast. Even if he is not climbing, it can't be easy trying to keep that high pace, considering his injury. I hope he has fast healing bones :O)|
|He is my hero and a ...||bjarne|
Jul 8, 2003 1:47 AM
|Well According to danish television, he is getting by on pain killers and "healing" massage (he also got whiplash and a nerve that is stuck), but Riis won´t let him ride for three weeks on medication, so it doesn´t look good.
But yesterday he was able to put pressure on his arm, and he even tried to stand up in the pedals, without major problems, except for the pain offcourse.
If CSC rides a good TTT, he very well could be in yellow, and then I don´t think he will quit.
What a guy