|Now Aitor talks the talk||QUiTSPiNiNArOuND|
Sep 30, 2002 6:38 PM
|After he beat this Vuelta, with a little bit of an edge in the TT, he says he can take Lance's 5th Tour. Now i don't want to say hes not capable of it or anything, but why are you going to talk about being all mighty when he took Oscar as bait, let him do all the work, get in a slight breakway, leave Sevilla when he needed help, and had a great TT. Well see when 2003 Tour comes around. Lance doesn't talk crap anymore, his legs do.|
|re: Now Aitor talks the talk||atpjunkie|
Sep 30, 2002 7:14 PM
|Vuelta much shorter in total distance and alot less hills. AG is boasting so he can up his contract value. I don't think he can survive the climbs of the TdF and stay close enough to challenge.|
|Armstrong will probably obliterate him||weiwentg|
Sep 30, 2002 8:18 PM
|note also that he said that he knew all along (I paraphrase) that he was the strongest rider. this after he 'apologizes' for 'accidentally' attacking Oscar ... I say we still can't know for sure if it was an accident or not, but it looks somewhat less likely.
all right, he was the strongest rider on Kelme. that doesn't justify attacking his team leader. if he had not set pace, waited for Heras to attack, and THEN tried to chase Heras, that would have been fine.
|The Vuelta and Tour; Entirely different animals,||TJeanloz|
Oct 1, 2002 4:20 AM
|So Aitor won a Grand Tour that was effectively the Spanish national championships. Every international team that bothers to show up sends their 'B' squad to help their Spanish riders do well- but nobody who doesn't speak Spanish cares a bit about the race. Any good riders are pretty worn out from racing since March. In the meantime, you have a bunch of pack-fill like Jazztel in the race.
It was said during the Tour that if you had taken away the top three guys, the race would have been really interesting, because behind them, the field was very close. Well, the Vuelta didn't have those three guys and the race was very interesting. Unfortunately for Aitor, the Tour will still have Lance and Co- and a team like Kelme stands little to no chance of winning.
|Well Kelme has got a better chance than most, but...||Wayne|
Oct 1, 2002 4:44 AM
|like every other team they have the same problem. That is, Lance, in a three week tour, on a good day is the best climber in the world and on another good day is the best time triallist in the world. No one else can combine both. There's probably a handful that can out time trial him or out climb him if they are having a good day but I can't think of anyone who could do both even on great days. Ullrich probably comes the closest but who else is even close?|
|Lance will make him cry||mr_spin|
Oct 1, 2002 9:14 AM
|Until Aitor can deal with steep mountains, Lance has nothing to fear. I can't find any races this year where they went head to head, so it's hard to say how they compare in time trials. Still, Lance is one of the best time trialists around, so even if Aitor is better (doubtful), Lance will lose seconds at best.
I'm sure Lance would love the competition, but Aitor is no more a threat next year than Simoni was this year.
|Lance will make him cry||atpjunkie|
Oct 1, 2002 11:53 AM
|Aitor will die in the mountains and lose serious minutes and even the TT of his life won't save him. Like I've said this whole tour, Aitor was racing for Aitor. He was setting himself up for a deal, damn his own teammates. He'll pay for this next year, by the hands of Kelme and USPS.|| |