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Is Phil going senile?(9 posts)

Is Phil going senile?Spoiler
Sep 23, 2002 11:48 AM
I think he managed to correctly identify maybe 10 percent of the riders, groups, teams, and time gaps during this entire tour. If he makes a prediciton about whether a group or person will stay away, chances are the opposite will come true. If he says a certain rider is off the back, chances are the rider is off the front. If he says a rider has just passed under the three-km-to-go banner, chances are it was the five-km-to-go banner.
See I was critical early on...Wayne
Sep 23, 2002 11:55 AM
and then I think I just stopped paying attention to him when it has to do with names or where they are in the race. I still love his witty jibes at Paul and his enthusiasm for the race.
The sad thing is they probably get to watch a continuous feed so they're getting to see the race even when we're seeing the comercials on OLN and yet I still think sometimes I know more about who the riders are and where they are in the race then they do.
Probably... missed the key move of the day yesterdayshirt
Sep 23, 2002 12:01 PM
It was very frustrating to see Heras attack, ATTACK and gap the Kelme dudes while Paul was babbling about who was falling off the back.


oh, well...

Try this...mr_spin
Sep 23, 2002 12:18 PM
90 percent wrong? You're an idiot. I've watched every minute of the live coverage and you aren't even close, even for an exaggeration.

Try this sometime: turn down the sound on your set and call the race on your own. It's a hell of a lot harder than you think it is, especially on flat stages where NOTHING is going on. Phil and Paul both make plenty of mistakes, but you try keeping track of all the information they have to deal with, while commenting live on a foreign feed. Most of their mistakes are corrected pretty quickly.

If it's so bad, why do you even watch it?
Try this...noveread
Sep 23, 2002 12:46 PM
Bingo, couldn't have said it better myself.

Try this...taar44
Sep 23, 2002 2:39 PM
Phil, Paul and Bob watch the same pictures we are watching at home. With constant picture breakup and "decolorization", i think they all did a good job correctly identifying the ones they got right!
as much as i love 'em...rufus
Sep 23, 2002 5:44 PM
there were two glaring errors yesterday. they never called osa bridging up to the breakaways, even though the pictures clearly showed him catching and blowing by them, while paul was going on and on about something. and then they came back from commercial and phil said that osa had caught them, even though their cameras never showed it.

and then, they showed casagrande, who was clearly riding up to mayo and gonzales, and paul assumed they were showing dropped riders, and started talking about how casagrande was not looking at all good.
It's just part of the show.scottfree
Sep 24, 2002 7:25 AM
The mistakes, the wild exaggerations, the florid language, the bold predictions (and almost immediate retractions), are AB-SO-LUTELY part of the spectacle. You just expect it, it's come to be part of bike racing, like cowbells and the devil.

Sure, it gets annoying when important things are happening and you're trying to make out what's what, and no doubt Phil and Paul both are nitwits, but c'mon -- it's more entertaining than listening to Dick Vitale.
It's just part of the
Sep 24, 2002 11:19 AM
I have just skimmed the "contemporary language" Bible that my 13 year old daughter is using in Sunday School. It is nice to know that there is a least one place, Phil and Paul's cycling commentaries, where the English language is used well (kind of like those who drive and those who drive well -- I never will buy a Lincoln after hearing the same commercials during the Giro, TdeF and Vuelta). Even Bobke is getting into the act (see the Latest Bobke-ism posted below).