|Why do people call Lance skinny?||Matno|
Jul 27, 2002 6:54 PM
|I've seen a couple of articles now referring to him as a "skinny Texan" or other such nonsense. Have people started equating low body fat to skinny? I always thought that was "fit." Lance ain't skinny, he's freakin buff (okay, his upper body ain't exactly Mr. Universe material, but there are a lot of TdF guys with skinnier arms than his). Seems a little skewed in a country that officially classifies Tom Cruise and Russell Crowe as "obese."|
|Lance is pretty strong among pro cyclists,||elviento|
Jul 27, 2002 7:24 PM
|but 155lbs at 5'10"-5'11", he is certainly small compared to Sammy Sosa and Shaq.
If we judge him as a generic athlete, he is certainly on the skinny side. Maurice Green, for example, is 2" shorter and a full 20lbs heavier.
|The Velonews thing I bought says 165 lbs for 5'10"||Leisure|
Jul 27, 2002 10:20 PM
|Compared to the other riders they listed he is VERY heavy for his height. Just eyeballing them, the other riders at his height average about 135 or so. I wonder if that's part of his strength.|
|That's old data...||TJeanloz|
Jul 28, 2002 6:50 AM
|Not to be a complete stalker-type for knowing this, but I have a guide from 1995 that lists him as 5'10" 165lbs, and he has obviously dropped a substantial amount of weight from his pre-cancer days, when he was really quite muscular. More recent numbers I've seen put him in the low 150s, which the vast majority of Americans consider waif-like.|
|During tour coverage they said...||Ron B|
Jul 28, 2002 7:05 AM
|That Lance is around 165 in the off season and drops to around 157 for the tour.
Acording to the weights/height of the tour riders he is just average. Right at the average height and the average weight.
|I think he is less then that||cyclopathic|
Jul 28, 2002 9:42 AM
|count his weight is the key to mnt performance hence best kept secret.|
|Big Mig was tall & Mercx was 165lbs 6' too||Old_school_nik|
Jul 29, 2002 2:40 AM
|The medical stats from the pre-tour check up...||Wayne|
Jul 29, 2002 2:52 AM
|are probably available somewhere from this year. Last year they had him listed at 5'10", 147 lbs. So he's lighter than most people think. I think those wieghts listed in the media usually aren't real measurements or are measurements taken at the beginning of the year and then distributed by the team whenever someone makes a request for team data.|
Jul 29, 2002 4:21 AM
|That would be me... Well, actually I'm 5'11" but when I'm in good shape, 147 is my weight. Unfortunately, I'm not in ideal shape right now (my legs are fine, my upper body just hasn't had the workouts I wish I had time for), and I'm stuck at about 141. If it weren't for biking, I'd probably drop below 135...
Anyone know his resting heart rate, BP, etc?
|re: Why do people call Lance skinny?||NPA|
Jul 29, 2002 7:19 AM
|i was thinking about that myself this weekend...to me he looks almost skinny when he's in the mountains or just standing on the podium, even his legs don't look that big.
but look at him on the TT bike- he looks like a linebacker or something. obviously its just perception,
and mainly due to his position on the bike and the helmet,
but to me a noticeable difference in appearance.
|re: Why do people call Lance skinny?||rufus|
Jul 29, 2002 1:44 PM
|yeah, i thought he looked almost chunky in his time trial get-up.|
|Skinny Lance and the Skinny on Lance||atpjunkie|
Jul 29, 2002 7:06 PM
|look at him shirtless on the cover of ProCycling News. He looks like a 12 year old boy. Last year he was listed at 147. This year he is supposedly lighter. At 157 he wouldn't climb like he did or does.
As for his stats
Resting heart rate: 32-34
Max power at VO2: 600 watts
Max heart rate: 201
Lactate Threshold HR: 178
Time Trial HR: 188-192
Pedal rpm's during TT: 95-100
Climbing rpm's: 80-85, sometimes faster when attacking
Average HR during endurance rides (4-6 hrs): 124-128
Average watts during endurance rides: 245-280 watts
Training miles/hours, endurance rides: 5- 6 hrs / 100-130mile
|Sweet! Where'd you get that info?||Matno|
Jul 30, 2002 7:23 PM
|I know that few pro roadies spend much, if any time in the gym on their upper bodies. I think that resting heart rate is his key. That is phenomenally low, if accurate. Pele, the great soccer player also had a really low resting heart rate. However, it was his max heart rate (which was also amazingly low) that I think enabled him to play hard for hours on end. I wonder if starting a rigorous training regimen at an early age--like Lance did--has a long term detrimental effect on your heart... I had a friend who started bodybuilding in Germany at age 12, and his heart is now 3 times as big as it "should" be. Big enough to limit his lung capacity, in fact. Of course, that's an entirely different type of exercise, and I'm pretty sure Johannes used steroids at some poing, but I wonder... At least for now we know that Lance's cardiovascular system is in DANG good shape!|
|Sweet! his website||atpjunkie|
Jul 31, 2002 2:09 PM
|low to no upper body work whatsoever. All upper body growth would be 'dead weight' non useful muscle so cyclist's tend to minimize their upper bodies (hence the T-Rex like appearance).
Yes his heart and his Lactic threshold is what makes him the monster he is. I don't think training early will grow your heart and should actually be of long term benefit. Increased heart size is a typical side effect of steroid use/abuse and body building being of low cardio value wouldn't increase heart effeciency much at all. I'm sure most cyclists have "normal" heart sizes (except those on juice)