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Art of the backhanded compliment--spoiler(8 posts)

Art of the backhanded compliment--spoilerBeaver
Jul 23, 2002 11:52 AM
Taken from

Armstrong added: "I was happy for (winner Santiago) Botero, he deserved to win the stage but it's funny how he's so inconsistent. One day he's great like today another he's not there."
As if Armstrong has never bonked...Wayne
Jul 23, 2002 11:58 AM
what stage was it he bonked on 2 years ago? Botero has climbed fine, he was even with the Armstrong group going up Ventoux until there were only a few left and then he bonked. Anybody who's ever done it could see what happened to him, riders who had been dropped earlier were going by him like he was a tourist!
Of course he's bonkedMel Erickson
Jul 23, 2002 12:30 PM
But the important thing is he learned from the mistake and didn't let it happen again. Botero seems to make the same mistakes time and again. He has definitely been a hot and cold rider. He can be a good climber and can be a good time trialist but doesn't seem to be able to put it all together over the course of a stage race. I think the guy has the tools but hasn't put them together.
and Lance re: UllrichDougSloan
Jul 23, 2002 11:59 AM
He also said something about Ullrich being the most talented pro rider. Sort of implies that he wastes the talent by not being dedicated.

just saying what everyone already knowsmr_spin
Jul 23, 2002 12:20 PM
Botero is a great rider, but wildly inconsistent. In the recent Dauphine, Botero beat Armstrong in the ITT by 42 seconds, but the day before lost 15 minutes on Ventoux, and two days later lost 18 minutes on another mountain stage.

I don't see this as a dig at Botero, because everyone knows it's true. All you have to do is look at the last two weeks to see that Botero won the ITT, then lost 15 minutes on Ventoux (sound familiar?).

I wonder if Lance isn't in fact, trying to give Botero advice. There's no question Botero has talent, but he'll never be a GC threat until he figures out why he is inconsistent. It's lonely at the top--Lance is probably desperate for someone to truly challenge him!
Not the same thing...Wayne
Jul 24, 2002 2:47 AM
Botero bonked on the Ventoux, in the Dauphine the only stage he road to win was the TT, the others were just for training (or so he said at the time). I think Botero's biggest problem is his size, he's built more like a sprinter than a climber.
how so?mr_spin
Jul 24, 2002 8:12 AM
It's his own fault he bonked on Ventoux. Having just ridden it a month before in the Dauphine, he should have ridden better, not worse. He bonked in the Classique des Alpes, too. He could have easily lost that race if someone other than his teammate caught him.
Man, You were flying when I passed you back there!!!!!! (nt)TIC
Jul 25, 2002 9:33 AM