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Anyone buy a Lincoln Navigator?(8 posts)

Anyone buy a Lincoln Navigator?alansutton
Jul 22, 2002 1:51 PM
I'd rather own one of those colorful Fiat/Peugeot wagons I see in the Tour with the 10 bike rack. In fact, I don't even want to see another Lincoln again! -well, at least until July 2003...
No, but my wife want's one now...Slowclimber
Jul 22, 2002 2:01 PM
And there is no way we can afford 50K for a SUV, unless we hit the Powerball or some other fortunate event.
lemme say this...fcebedo
Jul 22, 2002 2:54 PM
Those retracting sidesteps are stupid. If you're going to have sidesteps, they don't have to retract. They look cool anyway when they're out. Besides, you might step out and they're not there and you land on yo head.

When they're out, ground clearance is better in severe offroading conditions. That's never going to happen with this car.

The music is cool though and the ad kind of brainwashes you to say... 'uh, neat feature'.

That being said, thank you Lincoln for supporting the tour coverage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

francis
correctionfcebedo
Jul 22, 2002 2:55 PM
"When they're out, ground clearance is better in severe offroading conditions. "

I meant when the sidesteps are retracted in...

fc
Eurowagons ROCKGK
Jul 22, 2002 5:45 PM
I am with you. My mind has been changed. I'm generally a BUY American guy to a fault, but the American stationwagons are, in my mind, far inferior to the European wagons, one of which we settled on instead of an SUV in 1999. Minivans? Puleaze.

I had the opportunity to rent a little Peugeot 406 Sedan on an overseas trip last year, and it ZOOMED. How fun it was to drive a stick again too. I felt guilty topping 90 MPH, but I was getting passed all the time TOO.

I am inclined to think the Euros know how to get more out of their cars for this reason: gas is God-awful expensive over there, and they all like to drive fast. In my case (Saab) I got a stationwagon with the same cargo capacity as a Grand Cherokee (cubic feet, not load), in a 2.3 turbo engine that GOES. It's nicer inside. More comfortable. Low to the ground. Great emissions compliance. SAFER than a VOlvo. And it looks BOSS with bikes on top.

You know, the knock on some of these Euro cars is that they're underpowered. PHOOEY! I saw an Audi A4 today with a 1.6 litre engine today. Isn't that about the displacement of the old Honda CVCC's? Yet they get remarkable HP AND fuel efficiency with turbocharging. OTOH, most American cars are overpowered. And compared to what the Euros produce, are fuel inefficient too. This pains me because cars in this country are only getting larger, heavier, and hungrier for gas. This is bad for cyclists overall too. (But this doesn't mean I don't have a softspot for the old Mopars ;=)

There...I admit it. I'm a stationwagon guy. Tain't never going back.

GK
Eurowagons ROCKNJRoad
Jul 23, 2002 7:12 AM
Off topic and mine isn't Euro but there's a jack*ss in my neighborhood with a Mustang SVT and he's always spinning his wheels at the traffic lights. On at least 2 occasions I've been at the light, right behind and have made it a point to stay right on his *ss with my Subaru 2.5GT sedan. Sure he pulls away on the straights but while his rear end is slipping sideways my AWD is keeping hooked tight to the curve of the Highway onramp.
if he knew how to drive it would be different :-) nmDougSloan
Jul 23, 2002 7:42 AM
re: Anyone buy a Lincoln Navigator?Alan Ross
Jul 24, 2002 9:55 AM
I was on the right going up a hill... a lady in a navigator went by slowly and in order to fit that monstrosity into the lane she had to pull way over to the right...just as I pulled next to her..she curbed me I went down then she called me an asshole.