|CBS's coverage is a rotten joke||velocity|
Jul 21, 2002 12:44 PM
|Since CBS blocked OLN's live coverage of this epic stage, decided to go for a ride instead. Get home, have lunch, tune into CBS all excited thinking maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised. What was I thinking? They devote 93% of their hour recapping not just this past week but the first two weeks (the prologue again?), skip yesterday's exciting finish (because it was a Brit -- or Scot -- not an American who won). Then in a flash they cover today's monumental stage. If you blinked, you missed it. What a waste.|
|You were expecting better?||Walter|
Jul 21, 2002 1:17 PM
|I listened online thru Eurosport. There guy's aren't as good as Phil and Paul but at least it was live.|
Jul 21, 2002 2:29 PM
|Have listened some to Eurosport and they do a good job as well. Was OLN not streaming online either?
Don't regret going out for a ride as I didn't feel like being cooped up today and needed to log the miles. But if it was live on OLN I would have stayed home and watched. It's just so lame that CBS blocks OLN's live coverage and its afternoon reairing to drum up a larger audience for their bs show. At least we can watch it tonight on OLN...
|Phil and Paul had live audio online. nm||Dave Hickey|
Jul 21, 2002 2:55 PM
|It's a joke, but at least I get it!||4bykn|
Jul 21, 2002 3:56 PM
|For those of us who don't shell out $50+/month (locally anyway), the CBS coverage is the only game in town. Sure it could have been better, but it's the only coverage I get, unless I pay $50 for a video from WCP.
Consider yourself lucky to be in a position to complain.
|Was it really so bad?||GK|
Jul 21, 2002 6:43 PM
|I agree 100% that the coverage on CBS stinks -- if you're an avid and experienced bike race watcher. But that's what OLN is for. Yeah yeah, cry me a river if you don't have OLN, but until you get DirecTV, or convince your cable company to carry it, you probably know someone who can tape the stages for you.
As one of the big 4 networks with lots of competing coverage, CBS needs to make the Tour watchable for the rest of America that is tuned in on a Saturday afternoon. And on that count, I thought they did a decent job "educating" the uneducated. After all, how many of us learned about Lemond on the truncated coverage on Wide World of Sports? And we didn't turn out to be axe murderers or anything. And hey! At least they're showing it, and not giving us Nascar or golf or something.
On the other hand, if they had shown the 90 minutes of the peloton just riding along through the Plane Trees, people who don't know cycling would have tuned out...that is if they hadn't fallen asleep first.
Anyway, I think the heavy handed criticism of CBS in this regard is a little unfair, and a lot short-sighted.
Jul 21, 2002 8:22 PM
|I agree--not what we would want in race coverage, but it was produced for a bigger audience. I swear, I still don't get tired of the cancer survivor story. One of my wife's friends called to let me know that she watched the CBS coverage at noon today and enjoyed it. "Now I know what all the fuss is about," she said, then began asking me questions about teamwork, etc. So it worked.|
|I find myself in an awkward position.||Spoke Wrench|
Jul 22, 2002 4:20 AM
|I avoid the CBS broadcast because I'd rather watch OLN in the evening not knowing what's going to happen.
It looks to me like there is a narrow window of popularity where I'd like bicycle raceing to remain. If it ever becomes more mainstream, CBS-type coverage is all we are going to be able to get on television. In other words, sports for people who don't like sports. I don't want that to happen.
On the other hand, if viwership drops off very much, I'm afraid we'll fall back into the dark ages with no coverage.
Jul 22, 2002 5:11 AM
|I couldn't believe it. They had slated two hours for coverage - one for recap; the other for Ventoux. But LA didn't win the stage so they couldn't see anyone wanting to watch it. They figured Home Improvement had more appeal than the Ventoux stage and nixed it. OLN's daily ratings have to be better than a rebroadcast of an f'in old cancelled sit-com. What about their integrity to the fans who should have been allowed to watch it live which they negated?
They don't do a good job, they don't report the sport at all, no journalistic integrity, all they do is make up some quaint, silly travelogue about the WONDERS OF FRANCE and a bunch of stale bloated windbag rhetoric about the GRAND NOBLE MAGNIFICENCE of Le Tour de France and our GREAT AMERICAN HERO and pass it off as profundity. BS.
CBS can suck my .... Can't stand broadcast TV.
But I'm over it now. : ) But damn it sucked. Me and my buddy went to a big sports bar in Manhattan and begged them to let us have one tv during the Yankees v. Boston game (big deal here) and 2:00 rolls around and stupid Tim Allen and that retarded show comes on. BIG letdown.
|Sintesi : I felt the same way..||Old_school_nik|
Jul 22, 2002 5:34 AM
|no apologies needed - the other poster is correct though when he points out that if cycling gets too popular - then Network coverage will prevail and it will surely suck the big Credit Lyonais wang!
Jul 22, 2002 6:17 AM
I don't pay too much attention to who posts what, but I swear I've seen some good posts from you in the month or so I've been around here.
But really... "me and my buddy"?
Looks like the CBS affiliate in NYC opted to not run it. That hurts. Especially after Lance quietly tripped up to NYC after 9/11. And speaking of that -- I don't know if Tiger did (nor do I care), but reading the account of Lance's trip to FDNY stations etc further reinforced my belief that Lance is THE MAN for all time.
And I'm also with the other poster who said that the cancer survivor stuff never gets old. Lance is a daily reminder of what we can be. Wow.
Jul 22, 2002 6:54 AM
|Don't tell me they ran the 2 hour feed in other parts of the country. Please. That does hurt.
You want to hear something really painful? I live in the only part of NY in the 5 boros that you can't get OLN. If I lived 4 blocks away from my present address I'd have OLN. That stinks mightily. Oh well, whaddayougonnado?
I'm with you on the LA survivor story (actually met him last year and got him to sign my cycling cap) and I'm totally into the message. The more people who know his story the better. Great guy, great guy. But man, show the bike race already. ; )
|re: CBS's coverage is a rotten joke||rufus|
Jul 22, 2002 6:31 AM
|i taped it but didn't watch it yet. but if a previous poster is correct, why did they go back and recap the entire tour, when they'd already done the first week during their first broadcast. they should have just recapped where the principles were standing, then recap the second week and showed maybe 20 minutes of the ventoux stage.
i know they're trying to appeal to a wider audience, but how does telling tales about the battle of the bulge do that? what got me was their recap of the first stage, when thay show bertogliati crossing the line in front of the pack while the announcer says "stage one finishes with rubens bertogliati finishing just ahead of the pack". it showed nothing of what racing is like; to the average viewer, all they see is a bunch of guys crossing a line all together. wow, exciting!
all they had to do was devote one more minute of time to show him at least cranking up that hill, the look of suffering on his face as he was throwing his bike around trying to get as much power as he could into it, and then holding on as the pack charged down on him. now that is racing, and i'm sure even joe sixpack or housewives would have been intrigued by that.
|re: CBS's coverage is a rotten joke||aliensporebomb|
Jul 22, 2002 11:01 AM
|In Minneapolis, they ran some weird bike related stuff BEFORE the last hour:
(1) A show on mountain biking.
(2) a 30 minute info-mercial for a bicycle.
(3) then the last hour of tour coverage.
The infomercial was silly, some bike called a landrider
that obviously had no interest to anyone of the road
mentality (sort of a comfort bike hybrid with suspension).
The show on mountain biking was a surprise but they could
have ran it after the tour stuff.
Anyway, it was nice in one respect: my wife actually got
to see this stuff and she actually enjoyed it. Wish we
|I liked it.||fcebedo|
Jul 22, 2002 2:22 PM
|I saw the hour-long coverage of the mountain stages including Ventoux.
I don't know what you jokers expected but it's exactly what I expected from an hour of Network Coverage. A great intro buildup, coverage of the key moves, the cancer story, some American Flyers type music, World War II Bunkers,some drama, Virenque, Armstrong!!
It's no substitute for watching 10 hours of pure OLN coverage but as a supplement for that and for a broader audience that is not as hardcore... I think they did a fine job.
I mean what did you expect? Are you guys the same whiners who complain about the Lincoln Navigator commercials. Count your blessings fools.
Oh, the OLN 2 hour coverage that night was cool. I now call you Mr. Virenque again!!!