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HA! The Hunter Thompson of cycling journalism tells us(11 posts)

HA! The Hunter Thompson of cycling journalism tells usscottfree
Jul 17, 2002 5:07 AM
how Lance stomps the balls off the Spanish Armada:
Good article (nm)tj90
Jul 17, 2002 8:19 AM
re: HA! The Hunter Thompson of cycling journalism tells usMe Dot Org
Jul 17, 2002 8:40 AM
Good presentation of why a single second-place time trial finish may not automatically mean the death of Armstrong.

As for "The Hunter Thomson of cycling journalism" - well Joe Lindsey is a few thousand peyote buttons away from Mssr. Thompson. Florid metaphors aren't drug-induced hallucinations. Let Lindsay run screaming from the thousands of bats fleeing the confines of one of the neutral service vehicles, while gargoyles crouch on the back of media motorcyles, and live to write about it --- then we'll talk ;-)
Well, the Tour de France is certainly notscottfree
Jul 17, 2002 8:50 AM
the Mint 500!
Who said a single 2nd place was...Wayne
Jul 17, 2002 8:53 AM
the death of Armstrong? That's just setting up a strawman so you can knock it down. I think all anyone has concluded from the TT is that perhaps Armstrong is beatable this year. Does anyone still not believe he is the heavy favorite?
I don't believe he is the heavy favorite,TJeanloz
Jul 17, 2002 9:25 AM
Armstrong is still the favorite, but his time trial performance was not as dominating as past performances.

It would be premature to say that he can't win, but he certainly isn't inspiring awe the way he used to.
I found this interesting...mr_spin
Jul 17, 2002 9:34 AM
Two or three days BEFORE the time trial, Johan Bruyneel made some interesting comments. Because they were made BEFORE the ITT, he wasn't trying to do spin control. Here is what he said:

"Most of the crucial mountain stages and the last time trial take place in the last week of the Tour. As a result, our preparation was based on being strong in the last week, at the risk of sacrificing the first time trial."

"(Igor Gonzalez de Galdeano and Santiago Botero are) the two most serious rivals for Lance, of course, but this is the Tour and I'm not saying he will win, but he should not be far away. Neither Botero or Gonzalez Galdeano ever took a second off Lance in the mountains."

Regarding the TT course, "We checked it twice but it was a routine reconnaissance. This is not where the Tour will be won or lost."
Awe is the key concept here.scottfree
Jul 17, 2002 9:37 AM
Awe's good for several seconds, if not minutes, in the TDF (and other contests). If your opponent thinks he's beat going in, he probably is. We can argue ad nauseum whther LA's TT performance was a significant falling off or not. The fact is, his opposition takes it that way, and the awe factor is severely diluted. One bad day early in the mountains and the awe factor will be gone. Airmailing the field and putting two or three or five minutes into Igor/Beloki/et al on the first mountain stage and -- well, awe is back and Armstong sails to Paris.
Agreed... (nm)JSchneb
Jul 17, 2002 9:42 AM
Remember the amazing bluff last year...CyclingWolf
Jul 17, 2002 10:53 AM
When Lance was acting like he was suffering, had everyone from his own team, camera's, commentators etc...maybe this was his plan to build up false hope in his competitors? I think he is going to explode in the Mountains.

I don't believe he is the heavy favorite???t-bill
Jul 17, 2002 10:44 AM
He may not be the "heavy" favorite, but he is more than a slight favorite. The USPS training this year has to have changed because of the timing of the mountain stages. While I am not overly optimistic. LA is certainly in control of his own destiny, and has not had to exert himself much yet. He won his prep races, and we have no reason to believe that any one is stronger in the mountains. No one is infallible, but I still believe he will roll in the last week. He will be an opportunist, and take off when he feels the time is right.