|Justr curious about the team sponsors||wolfereeno|
Jul 11, 2002 9:34 AM
|I read that USPS is privately owned by some San Fran millionaire. So what does the US Postal Service have to do with it? Are US tax dollars used to sponsor the team?!
Why isn't there Team Budwiser, McDonalds, or Pfizer? (believe me, I'm thankful there are not.) But these corps have tons of cash to spread around the sports world. I always wondered why the major sponsors are relatively obscure.
Has anyone seen summaries of what the sponsors do? For example, what the hell are Domo/Farm Frites? Domo seems to make flooring which has nothing to do with Potatos. And frites don't sound too healthy...
Not that I'd wear a team jersey anyway, but if I was going to, I'd want to know what the sponsor did. I wouldn't be proud to walk around with some evil bank or pesticide manufacturer's logo on my ass (unless I was highly paid of course)
|Often you have...||Wayne|
Jul 11, 2002 9:51 AM
|two main sponsers or a main sponser and a slightly lower sponser. So Domo (flooring) and Farm Frites (frozen french fries) have no connection besides sponsering the same team. A number of teams are essentially national teams sponsered by the state lottery (Lotto, ONCE, FDJ).|
|re: Justr curious about the team sponsors||TJeanloz|
Jul 11, 2002 9:57 AM
|The USPS team is owned by Thomas Weisel, a San Francisco based merchant banker. The USPS puts up cash to get all the advertising from having a pro cycling team.
You might think that the sponsors in the pro field are obscure, but they are mostly pretty good sized companies in the European markets. Consider that sponsoring a D1 team costs $5 million+, and it takes a pretty big company to foot that kind of bill. Also, co-sponsors of the same team tend to be disparate in their businesses, you wouldn't want a Burger King-McDonald's or Coke-Pepsi team for obvious reasons.
|re: Justr curious about the team sponsors||wolfereeno|
Jul 11, 2002 11:01 AM
|I love the team and do feel some American Pride but there's really no way the US Postal Service, which just raised the price of stamps and has been loosing money for a long time, should be spending millions on sponsoring anything.
There are plenty of non government companies that could sponsor it. Budwiser/CocaCola/etc spend 5 BILLION on advertising a year. A bike team would be no big deal.
|It's an interesting question...||TJeanloz|
Jul 11, 2002 11:17 AM
|The USPS, though a government organization, doesn't receive taxpayer funding, beyond the cost of a stamp. And it did turn a profit (of $363 million) in FY1999.
Why should a government unit that is forced to operate like an independant business not be allowed to advertize like an independant business?
Obviously, somebody at the Post Office thinks this marketing strategy is a good idea, and their management ought to know better than you, or me, or a Slate columnist.
|It's an interesting question...||climbo|
Jul 11, 2002 11:34 AM
|USPS also stated that the reason they are in it is to get more overseas business. Cycling is huge so it seems like a good way to get exposure to me. Maybe if they do and things go well our stamps prices will go down for our friend.|
|It's an interesting question...||t-bill|
Jul 11, 2002 12:18 PM
|The USPS usually makes money for a year or two after te raise stamp prices, then break even, then lose money for a year,the reaise stamp prices again. While this may seem like a governmental business plan, TJeanloz is right that they only receive legal protection from the US Gov't but are an independent agency which recieves no tax dollars. They can spend their money on whatever they want as long as we are willing to pay ever-higher stamp prices.
Thomas Weisel used to be manage a sizeable investment bank that was subsequantly bought buy NationsBank, so he struck out on his own again. He pays Lance's salary, while the USPS get's all the recognition. Apparently Mr. Weisel is o.k. with that. He's the man! We need more cycling sponsors like that!
|And whatever you do...||Wayne|
Jul 11, 2002 10:13 AM
|don't root for Rabobank, they are a large Dutch Bank or maybe there are some good banks?|
Jul 11, 2002 10:14 AM
|Team Colpack-Astro is sponsored by McDonald's.
The old Polti team (Virenque was the leader) was also sponsored by McDonald's.
There is a site that covers teams that appears to be going under, but is still up: http://www.cyclingteams.com
|re: Justr curious about the team sponsors||SLB|
Jul 11, 2002 12:08 PM
|There are quite a few relatively unhealthy (at least to most cyclists) sponsors on some of the smaller teams. Sierra-Nevada beer and Jelly Belly just off the top of my head.
The US teams have sponsorship from pretty large corporations, but they really never promoted their teams as much as their products. Everyone has heard of Saturn and Mercury autos but most don't know they sponsor cycling teams. It's just a question of exposure in the US and cycling just doesn't register a blip on the radar. However if NFL teams were to sell advertising space on their jerseys I'm sure you would see all the big companies (just like naming stadium rights)
|re: Justr curious about the team sponsors||gbk|
Jul 12, 2002 8:08 AM
|Her are more :
Lotto : Belgian lottery
France de jeux : French Lottery
ONCE :spanish lottery
CSC : computer science coorparation
Tiscali : Internet Comunication
Mapai : glue /chemical manufactur
Quickstep : Floors
Euskatel : Phone company spain
Telecom : Phone company Germany
Credit Agricole : French Farmers Bank/financing
Tacconi : Sportclothes
Vini Caldirola : Wine Company
Banesto :Bank, spain
Rabobank : Dutch Bank
Cofidis : Phone company, france
DOMO : Medical manufactur
Farm frites : French fries
Lampre : Metal manufactur
Daikin : Aircondition
Kelme : Sportswear
AG2R : Incurance
Jean Delatour : Jewel buisness
Bonjour : French Newspaper
Fassa Bortolo :dry mortars & Lime cement company
Alessio :Skin & body care products
USPS, You know, but cosponsors are VISA,YAHOO,Montgomery financing
And the rest :
Saeco :Coffey machine manufactur
Mercatone uno : Distribution company
Team Coast : Clothes
Gerolsteiner : mineral water
Phonak : Hearing aidess
BIG MAT / Auber: constructionmatr./ The city of Auber
Alexia : Aluminium parts
That was all 1. division teams.
|ONCE = an organization for the blind funded by the lottery (nm)||NJRoad|
Jul 12, 2002 9:52 AM
|no quite from my understanding||lnin0|
Jul 12, 2002 8:43 PM
|O.N.C.E. : national lotery of Spain managed by an association for blind people (thus the logo) .
Eroski : hypermarket chain (similar to Wal-Mart I believe)
|no quite from my understanding||TJeanloz|
Jul 15, 2002 4:25 AM
|Well, ONCE is the Organizacion National de Ciegos Espanoles, or Spanish National Organisation of the Blind. How does this relate to a lottery?:
"The ONCE's principal source of income is a lottery that the ONCE itself runs through a state concession, thanks to which it is able to carry out all the good social work the institution undertakes. The 'coupon' (the popular name for this lottery) provides a decent, stable job for 23,000 salespersons, 15,000 of whom are blind and visually impaired affiliates, while the rest are persons with other disabilities. The 'coupon' accounts for over 11% of the total Spanish gaming market."
For more information: www.once.es