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Differences between Yanks and Euro Press(6 posts)

Differences between Yanks and Euro Pressbut not a Yank Lance Fan
Jul 24, 2001 9:44 PM
I was browqsing about the "" homepage and read the columns from Liggett, Sherwan, Roll, Carmichael, and the two American women contracted by OLN to do the tour. One glaring difference came to me in an epiphany of html and journalism which I think reflects some cultural differences between America and Europe (this is tour related in an odd sort of way...)

Ligget and Sherwan use "I" very little, whereas the American women reporters use "I" seemingly every other word.

Where the Euros would talk of others, the Yank ladies would talk of themselves.

Interesting differnce.

Any thoughts?

Should have read....LANCE FAN BUT NOT A YANK!but not a Yank Lance Fan
Jul 24, 2001 9:51 PM
I wouldn't read too much into it, myselfDog
Jul 25, 2001 5:11 AM
It's likely a bit of cultural language differnce. It seems that the Brits are a bit more learned and refined in language use (no epiphany there), whereas Americans seem to talk more plainly. The Brits seem to be a bit more conscious of usage, such as first person vs. third, etc.

One thing I'd like to see improved is Bob Rolls (Tour-day-France) learning how to simply ask a question in an interview, rather than making some glaringly obvious declaration and then pointing the microphone at Lance as if he's just supposed to figure out something to say.

It is all relativeOnly300
Jul 25, 2001 6:57 AM
There are some American journalists who are better trained than European journalists. The same can be said for European journalists. There are also many journalists from both areas that are not as well trained. With that said, I don't think one can say that European journalists are better journalists than Americans, or vice versa.
You're wrong my Eurocentric friend.Pack Meat
Jul 25, 2001 9:07 AM
The difference that you noted can contributed to a few things that have nothing to do with culture. Phil and Paul are tasked with reporting on the race and the racers and are highly experienced journalists and commentators. Kathleen Murphy is there to provide an outsiders look at the Tour so it is obvious that she is relating what she is seeing and experiencing. I just glanced through a few of Grieco's reports and noticed only one use of I.

Americans may be more self centered than other countries but it's been my experience that people are basically the same where ever you go. I personally know a number of self centered Brits and I know a lot more that are not just like Americans.

Pack Meat
They're just reporters.Versun Jetericks
Jul 25, 2001 9:34 AM
Phil and Paul's jobs are to provide unbiased and accurate reporting of the race events. They are not paid to provide their personal opinions (although we get lots of this).

Jessi's job is to provide this same coverage from an American point of view. She interviews team managers and asks those obvious questions that some first time viewers (and readers) from the United States may not know. I did not find that she used "I" any more than Phil or Paul (I admit I did not go through all of everybody's articles and tally up the word "I").

Bob's job is to interview the main guys from each stage. In his web articles he provides an "interesting" perspective of the race. If you know anything about Bob, you know what I'm talking about. Personally, I think they should let him do comentary with Phil and Paul, like he did during the Giro.

Kathleen's job is to write about the towns, traditions, logistics and anything that doesn't directly have to do with the race. She is hired to give her personal opinion. When a person gives their opinion they use the word "I". She may say, "I was effected by the battlefields the tour passed by, near Verdun." It's her first time at the race and she gives us a different perspective than what you'd get from Phil and Paul, who've been there forever.

Anyway, sorry for the long post. I hope this clears things up.

Versun Jetericks