Jul 24, 2001 10:19 AM
|What a joke. The Tour wouldn't let Vaughters take a cortisone shot to stop the inflammation caused by a wasp sting. He had to abandon the Tour today because of it. I'm sure that the cortisone would have REALLY helped him during this stage. The Tour really needs to shape up and figure out how to solve their doping problems because it has gone too far.|
|Glad to see the UCI has a handle on things||JohnnyA|
Jul 24, 2001 11:15 AM
Jul 24, 2001 11:54 AM
|I'd have to agree with them, and I really hate saying it because they are generally a bunch of total jerks. I had a cortizone shot in my knee about a year and a half ago. Since cortizone by itself burns like a mofo going in, it is usually mixed with a bit of lytocane(sp) well the lytocane pretty much makes you numb for about 24 hours. I had a torn IT band, but after my shot, I was ready to go run up a thousand stairs. Cortizone and Lytocane are both banned substances and both for very good reasons I'm sure. (I know that over-exposure to Cortizone can deteriorate dense muscle tissue like tendons & such.) I feel very bad when any rider has do drop out of the race, especially when it's not something they can help, but I think they made the right call in this instance. Sorry, I know you're all going to hate me for it.|
|Other uses for cortisone||Only300|
Jul 24, 2001 3:42 PM
|I think that the Tour is ridiculous in this matter. Cortisone is sometimes used for muscular injuries...like a football player. It is also used for inflammation from a sting or from anyother type of swelling. It would in no way enhanced his performance like EPO or anyting similar.
|Other uses for cortisone||Duane Gran|
Jul 25, 2001 4:59 AM
|I was thinking about this yesterday, and I too am upset. The only valid reason I can see for their hard line stance is that it would disrupt their drug testing. Eight riders are tested each day. I know the stage winner is always tested and I think the other 7 are randomly chosen. If he were randomly chosen they would have to overtly excuse the cortizone test. I'm not saying it is right, but I can imagine them feeling uncomfortable about the possibility of having different standards for riders.
I do feel bad for Vaughters because he has so often crashed out of the Tour and has had a string of bad luck.
|re: Jonathan Vaughters||spindry|
Jul 25, 2001 4:55 AM
|They won't solve the doping problem till they get rid of all the dopes making the rules. If the rules can deny someone getting proper medical attention, then something is seriously wrong with the rules.|
|re: Jonathan Vaughters||Versun Jetericks|
Jul 25, 2001 9:08 AM
|Next thing you know, Richard Virenque is claiming to have been bitten by a wasp in his thigh. He desperately needs cortisone to continue. Marco Pantanni needs a steroid injection to clear up an allergic reaction to shellfish. Where do you draw the line? |
It's a shame Jonathan Vaughters had to withdraw but, you make the decsion to be tough on drugs, you stick with it. No exceptions. He'll be back next year.
|re: Jonathan Vaughters||Only300|
Jul 25, 2001 4:40 PM
|Versun, I see your point but I feel that is a bit extreme. It was OBVIOUS and CLEAR that Vaughters had a wasp sting. A cortisone CREAM applied to his face would not have enhanced his performance. I think the rules need to be slightly changed, not blown wide open. If the UCI took some time to rethink and reform their bylaws and still enforce them strictly, cycling may be able to lessen its doping problem. I think riders should get the benefit of the doubt.|
|Cream wouldn't work.||Versun Jetericks|
Jul 26, 2001 11:21 AM
|He needed a direct cortisone injection. You could see the mark on his neck where he got the shot after he dropped out of the race. A cortisone injection can greatly improve your performance on the bike. You need less time for recovery and can sustain a higher pace for a longer period. It's pretty wonderful stuff from a performance enhancing perspective. The drawback is that it destroys your immune system and can give you lymphatic cancer not to mention shorten your lifespan by several years. |
I don't disagree with you. Vaughters wasn't going to win the tour. He just wanted to finish. I hope he comes back next year. Good luck to him.