|Sportsman of the Year||jimk|
Jul 23, 2001 10:05 AM
|If I have to suffer through the Espies this year watching Tiger Woods receiving the sportsman of the year award I will actually puke on the floor. Espn has the nerve last year and the year before to religate Lance to the side. This year he has shown not only the athleticism needed to overcome a 35 minute deficit in the mountains (not that that was ever in doubt) but to be an actual "Sportsman" when doing it. His post ride interview after his stage win against Ullrich was a moment in sports history..."I will not attack when someone wrecks." And yesterdays letting Ullrich receive the 8 second time bonus, putting Jan 8 seconds ahead of Kivilev, again nothing short of amazing. I LOVE THIS SPORT.|
Jul 23, 2001 10:15 AM
|I don't know, Cal Ripkin and Tony Gwynn's retirement might make them the fan favorites. Or Barry Bonds, should he break the HR record. |
As for Tiger last year. Give the kid some props. He won EVERYTHING. Convincingly too. To rival his accomplishment would require winning the Giro, Tour, Vuelta and Olympics (4 major victories). Plus a couple of the classics on the side.
Jul 23, 2001 10:33 AM
|I'd say that Cal Ripkin and Tony Gwynn are the sentimental favorites. |
Barry Bonds will win it if he breaks the HR record.
You have to give props to Tiger Woods last year though. What he accomplished was akin to winning the Giro, Vuelta, Tour and Worlds in the same season, plus a few classics for good measure. Armstrong is a phenomenal athlete, but he has not dominated his sport to the degree that Woods has (despite dominating an entire race).
|Hand it to Cal right now||TypeOne|
Jul 23, 2001 5:15 PM
|Spare the suspense and just hand it over. The All-Star game was a Cal showcase, and everyone is in rekindling their love affair with the guy.
Now, I think LA has been a clear favorite for the past 2 years, but knowing who votes and who ESPN and its advertisers want to appeal to, Ripken might as well start dusting a space off on his trophy shelf for that ESPY. Please, no more Tiger!!
Ripken is a class act, but my vote is for Lance.
|tiger's off-course performance||ak|
Jul 24, 2001 8:53 AM
|Sorry for those of you who have heard this story before, but I felt the need to re-submit it. I've got a problem with everyone claiming that Woods is such a good guy. He's a good golfer, that cannot be denied, but as for his value to society? I'll let you decide after this one.
I'm telling this story knowing full well that many of you will not believe me. I was helping the Youth Group at my church raise some money for their mission trip by working parking at the 2000 Advil Western Open (the one where tiger hit some guy in the head with a ball during a poor performance). We were working in the lots where all the VIPs, players and caddys parked. I had a line of cars stopped so that some walkers could cross the street. At the first break in the pedestrian traffic, the dark blue Buick at the front of this line floored it. Lucky (or unlucky) for me I stepped out of the way in time to avoid being hit and continued doing my job thinking (man, I hate golf fans) A few seconds later, some of the fans behind me started yelling and pointing to the blue car. Apparently the car that nearly ended my running/cycling carreer was being driven by none other than Tiger Woods (and I forgot to mention last time I submitted this that he was chatting on his cell phone when all this happened).
I understand the scepticism that you are all probably feeling right now, but I have the bright green shirt that proves I was workin there, and somoene out there has a picture of Tiger flying past a parking attendant at the 2000 Western.
|tiger's off-course performance||TypeOne|
Jul 24, 2001 11:32 AM
I don't have any personal encounters with Tiger, so I rely on hazy recollections of things I have read (great, huh?)
There was the SAG strike a few years back when Tiger crossed the picket lines to film Buick commercials...there was the time he ripped the PGA (the hand that feeds him, in my opinion)and numerous accounts from fans and sportswriters describing Tiger as "unapproachable." I haven't found a lot to like about the guy.
|ESPN not responsible for ESPY awards...||Cima Coppi|
Jul 23, 2001 11:04 AM
|Remember, the ESPY winners are voted on by America's couch potatoes. ESPN does not really have a say in who wins the awards, they just put together the choices. Blame the ignoramouses next door to you for continually leaving out LA from his deserved award.|
|And the ESPY goes to....||SquidFishus|
Jul 23, 2001 6:38 PM
|Whoever agrees to appear at ESPN's hideous event...mark it down.|
|Bonds if he breaks the record, other wise LA.||Canidraftyou|
Jul 23, 2001 5:08 PM
|Bonds if he breaks the record, other wise LA.
|re: Sportsman of the Year||Big Mig|
Jul 23, 2001 7:04 PM
|ESPIES are a JOKE
LA deserved the SOTY in 1999 when he won his first tour after overcoming cancer. Only a handfull of sports stories over the course of history can even match that.
Instead it goes to the US Women's Soccer Team. What a bad joke, not to sound chauvanistic, but this team was no underdog. The Women, unlike the US Men, dominated Soccer for years. Odds on favorite to win the World Cup yet they squeek it out in a boring kickoff. Wow...if that's not the greatest story ever told since Jesse Owens 1936 Olympics I don't know what is.
Last year and again this year (if LA wins), you could make great cases for him and Tiger. Both have dominated their sports like that of legends with a flair for the dramatic and fantastic while always remaining the perfect gentlemen. In 1999 Tiger was not what he has been in 2000/2001 so even more so was LA deserving in '99.
As for Cal? Come on - maybe lifetime achievement but he has done nothing this year short of retiring to deserve SOTY. Bonds? Why not McGuire? McGuire broke one of the longest standing baseball records and did not win, so why should bonds a few years later for the same feat? If Bonds breaks it this year it will only show that record to be as much about the player as it is about the smaller stadiums and weaker pitching rules to help bring excitement back to the game.
If you ask me LA was already SOTY in my book. And ESPN's book (or magazine) suxs.
Jul 24, 2001 9:21 AM
|Didn't Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa share the award in 1998?|
|Would LA have been so sporting if he was behind JU in the GC?||Largo|
Jul 23, 2001 7:40 PM
|Just curious. Wonder what he would have done if JU had the lead and he was fighting to catch up. Just playing devils advocate.|
|Not really relevant...||TJeanloz|
Jul 24, 2001 9:22 AM
|The sportsman of the year award doesn't really reward "sportsmanship" so much as it rewards a great athletic performance.|
|Allow me to clarify myself||Largo|
Jul 24, 2001 2:28 PM
|I absolutely agree that LA's performance at the TDF is worthy of a sportsman of the year, in terms of sheer athletic performance.
What i was refering to was others comments that LA was showing such good sportsmanship by waiting for Jan after the crash, etc.
If LA was behind JU in the GC, i doubt if he would have been so generous,but thats fine, because its racing.
|Allow me to clarify myself||gregg|
Dec 5, 2001 5:36 PM