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Ullrich and Armstrong ... talk about class(5 posts)

Ullrich and Armstrong ... talk about classliv2padl
Jul 23, 2001 8:52 AM
both of these guys are two of the classiest cyclists i've ever had the pleasure to watch. Ullrich never gives up and just keeps trying in his understated yet powerful way. Armstrong waits for Ullrich after the crash and then team USPS pulls Ullrich up the mountain to second place. to top it off, Armstrong allows Jan to get the points which puts him in second place for which Jan thanks him 'by hand' at the finish.

what an incredible tour.
And more...mr_spin
Jul 23, 2001 9:02 AM
Some lesser known incidents that show tremendous class:

Heras giving Jan a bottle when he could see Jan was out.

Armstrong congratulating Jalabert and telling him to get on his wheel as he passed him on stage 13.

Jalabert telling his KOM rival Laurant Roux ahead of time that he was going to attack on the Col de Portet D'Aspet. He did, Roux couldn't follow--now Jalabert wears the jersey.

These guys all have one thing in common: they are champions. Hopefully the younger riders take note.
Retro observation...RhodyRider
Jul 24, 2001 6:39 AM
I think in retrospect that "the look" on L'Alpe d'Huez wasn't the wild-west macho challenge that many people thought it was at the time. My opinion, based on the developments & behaviours since that incident, is that Lance was saying "hey, it's our time now, Jan, are you with me?!?"
Anyway, it is nice to see such pure actions at such an elite level. Let the masses have their trash-talking, thug-ethic mainstream sports, I'll stick with International cycling. Vive Le Tour!
Totally agreemr_spin
Jul 24, 2001 6:56 AM
I watched it again last night. He turns around and Jan and the Cofidis guy (Kivilev? I'm not sure) are completely blocking his view. That's why he looked so long--he couldn't see behind them to see what the damage was. In light of his later actions, I doubt it he was trying to intimidate Jan.

It's also kind of funny when watching that scene--look back and see Rubiera almost fall over after pulling off the front. It looked like the "This is really the wrong gear!" situation we all get in every once in a while! I guess the adrenaline shut off for him after that absolutely vicious pull.
Retro observation...wscott
Jul 24, 2001 10:36 AM
Your right, unless Armstrong is putting a spin on it, but he himself says he was not looking back to challenge Ullrich with "the look" but was just checking out what was going on behind him. That would have been a totally classless move more typical of pro football or basketball.