|What's Lance riding Ligget says MTB.||paulP|
Jul 18, 2001 1:01 PM
|What is Lance riding? What kind of fork is that?|
|re: What's Lance riding Ligget says MTB.||wscott|
Jul 18, 2001 1:24 PM
|Sherwin said the same thing yesterday on Stage 10, remember these are old Euro guys, not young Americans. Mountain biking is pretty much foreign to them, and at best a fringe sport. What they mean is a "bike for riding in the mountains", i.e. light weight, not a "mountain bike", like you or I would think of a mountain bike meant for riding on trails.|
|re: What's Lance riding Ligget says MTB.||hagbard celine|
Jul 18, 2001 1:47 PM
|Also, a climbing (or mountain)bike, in a roadie sense is built a little more differently than a flat touring bike is. A 'mountain' bike is built with slightly steeper geometry, for better cornering, and a longer top tube ala Genesis geometry for better climbing.
In any case, LANCE KICKS SOME SERIOUS BOOTAY!
|re: What's Lance riding Ligget says MTB.||EW|
Jul 18, 2001 6:35 PM
|I'm pretty sure the forks are the aeros carbon forks used for years on Klein's Quantum Pros - http://www.kleinbikes.com/products/bikes.asp?p=1017
Soon you will see Q Pros in Div 1 racing when Gerosteiner gets there, then all of a sudden everyone will be wanting them :).
|re: What's Lance riding Ligget says MTB.||Tim D|
Jul 19, 2001 1:58 AM
|You're dead right about Klein's.
All the fuss over generic columbus and deda tubed clones as riden by 80% of the peleton and everybody's forgotten who was first with butted aluminium, integrated headsets and straight, aero, carbon forks.
I'd love to see Kleins in Div 1 too, let's keep our fingers crossed!
Jul 19, 2001 7:18 AM
|well now...lets all flip back a ways in the scrap-book and dig out some pictures of L.A. and his bike from last years tour after it was featured in Bicycling Magazine. Anyone notice that his "mountain" bike had slightly larger tubing, internal cable routing, and some pretty smooth welds? I've got a feeling we are already seeing Kleins at the Pro Level. If you are looking for the most efficiant way to transfer power from you to the ground, the stiffest and lightest frame is definitely the way to go, right? Well then why wouldn't riders want to get on a Klein? They are the stiffest aluminum frames out there and (as of 2000) the only company to come out with a frame that weighs only 2.2 lbs (including the BB) I'm convinced that we are already seeing Kleins in the Pro races, I just wish they'd stop painting over those beautiful Klein paint jobs.|
Jul 19, 2001 9:37 AM
|My 55 cm 2000 Bianchi EV2 frame is 2.27 lbs. I suspect there are others. Having said that, Klein makes a rockin' good aluminum bike, why they don't get more respect or reverance is a mystery to me.
IMO Kleins split markets - they are not exotic enough to attract Europhile racers and are not well known enough to attract the entry level roadie who usually opts for Treks or C'dales. Hell, you can get a Quant Pro for $1500 at supergo. Why would anyone ever buy a C'dale 600 or an Allez for $1200 when you can get a Klein? On the other hand, a racer might see that and think a Klein too commonplace or just a Trek dressed up.
Sorry for the rant, but I gave notice last week and really only come to work to play online.
|ONCE used Kleins||trx0x|
Jul 19, 2001 9:21 PM
|ONCE raced on white Kleins in the mountain stages of the TDF back in the 90's, maybe around '95 or '96, not sure. And they didn't cover up the Klein name with Look stickers (since that's what they were contracted to ride). If I remember the story correctly, I think Manolo Saiz had the frames flown in from the States just a few days before the mountain stages.
With Trek, GT, Cannondale, and Specialized in Div 1, I'm sure someone will pick up Klein frames, if the price is right.