|Trivia questions: comebacks and triple crowns||Brian C.|
Jul 16, 2001 8:53 AM
|What is the greatest comeback in terms of overcoming minutes/hours behind? |
(I mean, what if David Millar were to miraculously overcome his two-hour deficit?)
Who/when was the tour's last triple crown winner: yellow, green, polka dot?
(Or, for that matter, quadruple-crown winner: yellow, green, polka dot, white?)
|re: Trivia questions: comebacks and triple crowns||mr_spin|
Jul 16, 2001 9:05 AM
|The last triple winner was Merckx in 1969. I don't think they had a white jersey then, but he probably would have won it, too. He was only 24 at the time.|
|re: Trivia questions: comebacks and triple crowns||TJeanloz|
Jul 16, 2001 9:18 AM
|I don't know what the longest comeback was, it wouldn't shock me if this year's winner takes it. |
Eddy Merckx won all three jerseys in 1969. There hasn't, to my knowledge, been a quadruple winner.
Fausto Coppi won the Polka dot and Yellow in 1949, 1952- there was no green jersey to be won yet.
Gino Bartali won both the yellow and Polka dot in 1938 and ten years later in 1948.
Sylvaine Maes won both in 1939.
Those are all the jersey sweeps that I'm aware of.
|Can't remember the exact numbers||Lazy|
Jul 16, 2001 12:23 PM
|But my vote for greatest comeback goes to Greg LeMond when he gained something like 2 minutes in a TT to beat Fignon by :08.|
|re: Trivia questions: comebacks and triple crowns||GregJ|
Jul 16, 2001 1:11 PM
|The 90 tour that Greg Lemond won was pretty interesting. I believe the first day of the race a soft break went clear and gained substantial time. There were a couple of known strong riders(not major gc threats) in it and a couple of relatively unknowns, one being Claudio Chiappucci who went on to a fantastic career. Anyway, Lemond had a hell of time bringing back Claudio. A little here, a little there and finally a couple of minutes in the final TT. I believe to this day that Chiapucci should have won that race. He decided while in yellow to attack very early in a mountain stage and Lemond looked at him and let him go. When he got caught by Greg later, he was wasted and lost considerable time that day. He was an excellent climber and should have marked Greg all day and attacked somewhere up the last hill. Biggest tactical error I ever saw in the Tour.
Greg's win in the tour in 89 was very impressive as well. Everyone remembers it because of the last TT where Greg won by I think 58 seconds to overcome a 50 second deficit winning the tour by just 8 seconds(I think.) But the rest of that race was wonderful, Lemond and Fignon were doing battle every mountain stage near the front of the field and the jersey changed hands a couple of times. Both these tours are available for purchase or rent and well worth it.
David Millar will be darn lucky to finish this Tour. There will be other years for him.
Jul 17, 2001 1:41 AM
|The break was at Futuroscope in France. The four were Pensec, Steve Bauer, Chiapucci and ?????? Anybody remember the fourth? |
I would agree that the 1989 TT as the final stage, unusual in itself, has made many forget the hammering that went on between Lemond and Fignon in the mountains.
As for comebacks, one of my favorites is still Roche chasing Delgado on the stage that finished at La Plagne, going so heavily into oxygen debt that they put him on an oxygen bottle at the finish and an ambulance to go back to the hotel. He limited his losses and probably won the 1987 Tour on that stage. And yes, most of the stage was shown on ESPN as I have still have a tape of that stage.