|Pure Speculation||Maillot Rouge|
Jul 5, 2001 11:24 AM
|Ullrich and Armstrong are within a minute of each other going into the mtns. Armstrong can't shake Jan off his wheel and in a fit of aggressive frustration Armstrong bonks going up Alp d'Huez. Livingston smiles as he passes the suffering Armstrong and says to Jan in German, "See I told you that would work."|
|re: Pure Speculation||SLB|
Jul 5, 2001 12:03 PM
|lol! again i think this year boils down to the same as last year: can ullrich contain lance in the mountains? i don't see it happening. and it looks like lance is peaking again at the right time and barring injuries, i just don't see him losing it. but playing devil's advocate. . .USPS has gone (I believe) 3 out the last 4 years without losing a rider. Can they do it again? Odd say no. And if Hamilton or Heras drops out before the mountains, maybe your scenario would happen. :)
On another interesting note: Johan Museeuw is penciled in to start for Domo. I haven't seen him ride the tour in years. I hope he tries something spectacular (a least for one day)
|Vaughters dropped out...||chrisbaby|
Jul 5, 2001 2:20 PM
|... in 99. Broke his jaw on the passage au gois. He was a key mountain domestique for lance.
Lance is pretty pissed off at Livingston, eh? I just read some scathing stuff in Procycling's Tour programme/magazine thingy. They havn't spoken since the transfer andprobably never will again. Its sad to see a friendship broken up like that. Fagnini and CIpo still say nice things about each other despite Fagnini moving to rival Zabel's telekom. If it wasn't for Fagnini, Cipo migh have had his beloved Milan-San Remo win this year...
|re: Pure Speculation||Just riding|
Jul 5, 2001 3:31 PM
|I see the Alpe d'huez stage as pivotal, even though its before the mountain TT. The strongest will come to the front, and there may be some good time losses. I remember in '96, when Big Mig cracked on Les Arc's, I remember Leblanc and TRominger finishing strong. Then, the next day in the mountain TT, The younger bucks, finished in higher placings, with Miguel and Rominger finishing a 1;01 down. I would think they'll probably ride the Alpe at a pretty good clip, and see who can stay with the pace. Despite the Mountain TT the next day.|
|re: Pure Speculation||Only300|
Jul 5, 2001 12:10 PM
|As I see it, Armstrong is just as strong as he was last year to tackle the mountains. Ullrich will come out strong but he has never had the explosive power that Armstrong has had. They both have great help in the mountains, Heras for Lance and Livingston for Jan. It should be a great Tour! I feel that Lance will pull it off and hopefully be deservingly respected by the Europeans. We will just have to wait and see.|
Jul 5, 2001 7:37 PM
|Lance has made excactly 1 mistake in the past 2 Tours (his bonking last year). Odds are, he won't make that mistake again, and Jan can't stay with him in the mountains; Jan'll get dropped quicker than an ugly baby!|
Jul 6, 2001 6:43 AM
|I thought he bonked two years ago as well, maybe my memory isn't right regarding that. But he also apparently bonked and/or was at his limit in the Tour of Switzerland on one of the mountain days when he lost time. Although that certainly didn't stop him from winning.
It's funny that the general consensus seems to be that Lance is a better climber than Ullrich, but Ullrich's assessment is that he can climb better than Armstrong but can't hang with him in the time trials. Go figure?
|If Ulrcih is correct......||Len J|
Jul 6, 2001 1:23 PM
|then how does he explain the Hauticon(SP)last year when he couldn't climb with Lance, or the next day when Lance & Pantini rode away fron Ulrich. He certainly wasn't a better climber last year.|| |