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Which Brakeset on a vintage (70's) Paramount Frame?(10 posts)

Which Brakeset on a vintage (70's) Paramount Frame?T-Doc
Dec 19, 2003 8:39 AM
Do I need normal reach or long reach brakes? Will long reach brakes work on the frame?
re: Which Brakeset on a vintage (70's) Paramount Frame?curlybike
Dec 19, 2003 12:15 PM
Some paramounts came with 27" wheels and others with 700 c. I have one in the garage that is 700 and I will measure the reach of the Campy brakes if you wish. If it came with 27 and now has 700, there could be a problem.
Would the 700 be larger or smaller than the 27?T-Doc
Dec 19, 2003 1:07 PM
Dec 19, 2003 4:31 PM
700=622mm Diam. rim
27"=630mm Diam. rim
Dec 19, 2003 9:01 PM
Those dimensions are the bead seat diameter and the actual rim outside diameter is larger. I only add this to help avoid confusion for others.
Several Optionsvosyer
Jan 10, 2004 10:33 AM
I have a 69 Paramount - so I have faced this delimia

Most expensive - switch out brakes to campy long reach - hard to find

Second - switch brakes out to standard reach and use a drop bolt in the back, the front will be fine - I find campy drop bolts is too short so maybe a diacompe - this is the route I used

Cheapest - lots of nice 27 inch rims available - but tires are an issue
Michelin has made 27 " tires available again N/Mcurlybike
Jan 16, 2004 7:49 PM
Not a huge difference ...Humma Hah
Jan 5, 2004 10:00 AM
I've got a 27" on the front of my '74, and 700c on the rear, and a set of NOS Weinman side-pulls on it with reasonably generous adjustment available. I can see that there might be a fit issue due to the maybe 1/8" difference in the rim radius, but many vintage brakes had a lot of adjustment in this direction due to having to accomodate both rim diameters.

In any case, once you've gone the vintage bike route, there's a tendency to accumulate lots of parts due to questions like this. Whatever doesn't fit, you eventually swap or sell.
re: brakesStarliner
Dec 30, 2003 2:46 PM
Normal reach is OK on front with 700c wheel, don't know about rear.
re: brakescurlybike
Dec 31, 2003 5:50 AM
That sure does not look like the reach of todays standard brakes which is 39-49 mm .those look like 55 or longer. That is the only way to get that much room between the tire and the fork.