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when did suntour stop making the ratcheiting barcons?(7 posts)

when did suntour stop making the ratcheiting barcons?ctisevn
Sep 25, 2003 10:44 AM
I did a quick google and couldnt find a timeline for them. I just put a set on my cross bike and Im really pleased with the results, just curious as to their "circa".
Ratcheting as in small micro clicks going back?boneman
Sep 25, 2003 12:57 PM
I was using them in 1973 but in truth, I don't know when they started making them.
that's themctisevn
Sep 25, 2003 3:00 PM
for a 30 year old part they work pretty well. my drivetrains quiter than its been in...ever. lost a few grams too in the switch.
Indexing killed them. I still have one set left...retro
Sep 25, 2003 4:15 PM
Can't remember the timeline, but I'm almost positive they came out a year or two before Shimano introduced index shifting. Nice as they were, the lure of the click was just too much for most riders.
I have one set left, almost new, not on a bike at the moment. Used to have two, but somebody stole one--just the shifters, nothing else--off my commute bike a few years ago.
Forgot to add that Rivendell has a near-copy.retro
Sep 25, 2003 4:17 PM
Duh: The whole point of my previous post was that when Rivendell decided to build its own shifters, the Suntour micro-ratchet was one of the models. Haven't tried them, but you can see them at
I have a set of the Rivs. They're called 'Silvers,' andOldEdScott
Oct 1, 2003 6:26 AM
Grant says they're the identical design. Maybe so, but I think the action on the Silvers is not nearly as light and elegant as it was on the Power Ratchets. Either that or my fingers have gotten weak in my old age.
I just bought a brand new pair and might sell jimbo
Oct 3, 2003 4:35 PM
I had a pair of Shimano 7 speed barcons on my Olmo Competition (age of frame unknown 15+ years is likely) and bought the Suntours off of Ebay because I thought they would be a nice addition.

It turns out that (IMHO) the action is not as smooth as the Shimano's in friction mode. The Suntours may just need a little lube, but they are a bit sticky in the non-ratcheting direction. Also the Shimano's are definitely more ergonomic.

I love old school stuff (mmmm, box section Dura Ace cranks), but sometimes the new stuff just works better (I love my clipless pedals).

If I decide to sell, I might post them in the classifieds, but I'll leave them on a bit longer before I make up my mind.