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found a Fuji 'special road racer'...quesionsGrahamalicious
Sep 19, 2003 10:00 PM
i need some info one a bike...

I Found this bike by the curb, missing the handle bars, pedals, brake levers, and stem, except the expander bolt (with an allen bolt instead of a hex bolt like all the others on the bike) still in the steerer tube. The cables and housings were cutIt has nice looking lugs (except it looks like someone took a marker around some of the lugs :( ) and a real head tue badge. unlike my $2000 trek...

the tires say 27 x 1 1/4, so i assume these are 27 inch wheels?

the components are all in good shape, and a mix of suntour, sugino and dia compe. the rear deralieur is a sunt our v-gt Luxe, the front deraileur is a sun tour comp-v, the brakes are dia compe, and the shifters are sun tour mighty shifter. the cranks say fuji on the arms but are the bolts say sugino. the hubs and QRs say 'sunshine' and the rims have no brand on them.

The paint and decals are in good shape, but those world champoin stripes seem to be not original. it also has an odd primus pump on the down tube but i see no way to attach it to the valves on the tube. there is no where i can find any mention of a year on the bike.

the shifters move smoothly one way and ratchet the other, so these are friction?

Is this bike really a special road racer, or is it just marketing on the downtube of a crappy ten speed?

I'm thinking of keeping it and getting a new bar/stem/levers and some fenders and a rack and using it as a it worth it? i haven't put it up on the work stand to make sure everything works, but there's hardly a spot of rust on it. I'm not at all familiar with friction shifting, and i've heard you cant get stuff for 27" wheels.

if anyone can give me any info on this, it would be great! thanks!
more pics...Grahamalicious
Sep 19, 2003 10:20 PM
more pics...t5rguy
Sep 20, 2003 9:49 AM
Stamped fork crown: dead give away. Cheapo bike, but nice as beater bike (no heartbreak when it's stolen!).
re: found a Fuji 'special road racer'...quesionsdesmo
Sep 20, 2003 9:34 AM
I don't know about the specific model but from the pics looks like a low/mid level bike. "Special Road Racer" not quite being "special people", but nowhere near a pro bike either. Does it have forged dropouts? If cheesy stamped ones then I'd put it in the "crappy ten speed" dept. If nice thick ones, then make a fixie/SS out of it. It has the right "look" anyway, and would be a sweet beater fixed gear. Can't top white/chrome for that swell 70's look. 27" tires are available. Any good LBS can order them. Cheap, and most still have gum sidewalls which will look on that bike.
Sep 20, 2003 11:59 AM
They're 27" wheels, not 700c's. The rims are probably steel Arya's. The crankset, while cotterless, is a Sugino cheapo. The components are very serviceable and the bike cost about $350 in its day. The tubing is straight gauge. The shifters are friction. SunTour had a very fine ratchet as you pulled back and the smooth friction going forward. It was originally called the S-10. It's definitely a beater/commuter sled. I had bought one in 1973 from Lifecycle, Mass Ave in Cambridge, sold it to my college roomate after a few months buying a Fuji Finest and then selling that to a cycling friend and bought a Gios-Torino.

It's a good bike, sturdy and weighs a ton. Don't spend too much money on the thing. I'd just get some fenders and a good bike lock, and use it around town.
$350? No way. Similiar Raleigh Grand Prix was under $200 in 1977bicyclerepairman
Sep 21, 2003 12:57 AM
Identical deraileurs, shift levers lacked rubber covers. Weinman brakes (which Dia Compe copied). If you paid $350, you were had.
$350? No way. Similiar Raleigh Grand Prix was under $200 in 1977boneman
Sep 21, 2003 8:30 AM
I see Maynard Hershon says they cost $125 in 1971 so maybe it was $150. I've still got the receipt but it's in Stateside storage and at my age, the memory's not what it used to be.
re: more questionsGrahamalicious
Sep 21, 2003 8:14 PM
More on my fuji...

The dropouts look forged, like the ones on sheldon browns section on them. I've wanted a fixie for a while, so i think i'll turn this into one.

I also plan do do a budget (spray) repaint on it (i've wanted a green bike forever)

can i do the following:
Keep the crankset and middle ring (the rings are in great shape) with some shorter bolts.
New 700c Fixie wheels
Quill Stem and Cowhorn bars
Aero brake lever
new front front brake (i'd need a long reach caliper in a 27" to 700 conversion, right?)

I'd do this all with the intention of ending up with a better fixed bike frame and new bb and crank in the future (long reach brakes are fine on normal forks and wheels, right?)

re: more questionsbicyclerepairman
Sep 22, 2003 4:03 PM
1.) There is no middle chainring on a double crankset. Perhaps a moot point. Are you sure the outer chainring comes off on that crank? I don't think it does.
2.) What kind of shape are the original wheels in? I would keep the 27" wheel size. Reason: the setup as it is already uses long reach brakes. You'll need longer than long reach....its doable, but IMHO this affects the look, and not in the positive direction. If you're online, you can find 27" rims, tubes, and tires. Another option: Campagnolo used to make an offset "drop bolt" to migrate your front brake lower on the face of the fork crown. If you can find one, you can use the existing brake with a new 700c front wheel. OTOH, you're going to paint it, right? Have a local framebuilder braze on bosses for cantilever or V-brakes located on the forks (and stays if you want) for the 700 size wheels. Then prime and paint it. Green.
3.) Quill stem and cowhorn bars?: since you asked, yes.
4.) Aero brake lever? I can't see why not, so long as you match the cable pull of the brake lever to that needed by the yoke of the centerpull (or other) brake that you're going to use.
Hope this helps.
If thats a 15 speed, my apologies...bicyclerepairman
Sep 22, 2003 4:20 PM
It looks like a ten speed in the picture. If the 52 tooth ring is detachable its a better crankset than indicated by boneman's post. You then have the option of grinding down the teeth of an old worn out 52 tooth ring to make a "guard", if you like that look. No need to hunt down shorter bolts....
If thats a 15 speed, my apologies...Grahamalicious
Sep 22, 2003 6:22 PM
Its a 10 speed, i just said middle ring...oops...

both rings are detachable, and they're 53/40