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Have a chance to pick this up cheap - comments please!(10 posts)

Have a chance to pick this up cheap - comments please!PMC
Aug 21, 2003 9:35 AM
A local guy has this bike for sale and wants 350 for it. It was unused and spent 10+ years in a shop until last year when the current owner picked it up to get back into biking. It is in close to mint shape and hasn't seen enough miles to wear the CD coating off the rims.

It's being listed as a Bridgestone RB-1 but is badged with Look stickers, this is the way he bought it. Here is a copy of the ad

For sale: Early 90's Red Bridgestone RB-1. 4130 cr-mo lugged steel frame. Only Bridgestone identifiers are decals on the chainstay, otherwise it has LOOK decals on the frame. I've been told it could possibly be a La Vie Claire team frame that was never built up from the Andy Hampsten era. Overall very good condition -- no crashes, no races, just some dings.

Shimano 600 SIS 12 speed group, Dia-Compe Royal Gran Compe brakes, Shimano 600/Mavic MA40 wheelset. VERY low miles.

I bought it last year to see if I wanted to ride again - I did, and got a new bike this year! It would make a great commuter bike, or even a beginner club/race bike. It's "vintage", but rides like a dream!

Any thoughts on if this is worth picking up would be appreciated.
re: Have a chance to pick this up cheap - comments please!davet
Aug 21, 2003 1:54 PM
I don't recall ever hearing that Bridgestone had frames in the Tour. Your pic isn't crystal clear, but is it possibly a re-spray and an owner liked Look bikes? Maybe you could contact Grant Peterson at Rivendell. He used to be one of the main guys at Bridgestone.
re: Have a chance to pick this up cheap - comments please!Djudd
Aug 21, 2003 5:02 PM
I'm somewhat a B'stone nerd (IBoB)and I really don't recall any B'stones in the tour rebadged or no. In any event, RB-1 is a great bike and worth at least that price. The previous poster is correct to send you to GP, email him through the Rivendell site
Agree, FWIW--Tour or not, it's a nice bikecory
Aug 22, 2003 8:27 AM
I'm kind of a Bstone geek, too--still got three in the family, two of them ridden almost daily. I would have bought an RB-1 new if they'd come in my size, but I needed a 64 and they topped out at either 60 or 62.
In any case, it's a really nice bike, and Grant (www.rivbike.com) would be able to answer any questions.
Speaking of Bstone...anyone remember Pineapple Bob...nmDjudd
Aug 22, 2003 1:46 PM
Working for Riv now, I think--pic in the last catalog (nm)cory
Aug 24, 2003 3:25 PM
re: Have a chance to pick this up cheap - comments please!biggearlover
Aug 24, 2003 2:56 PM
I'm not familiar with B'stone bikes, I just noticed (after blowing up the pic) the little fixtures on both front and rear drop outs for mudguards. The rear wheel seems to have that extra clearance. If that's what you're looking for, go for it (for a lower price, like 250 at the most); but it's not a racing frame, unless I missed the guys with the mudguards in the TdF.
The RB-1 IS a racing frame...tube_ee
Aug 24, 2003 9:13 PM
In fact, Winning Magazine did a muti-part series on the RB-1. Basically, they had some Cat 2 roadie race one for a season. He started with the stock bike, and upgraded parts as he saw fit. In fact, I think that for one year (maybe 93), more US road races were won on the RB-1 than on any other bike.

I sincerely dounbt that any racer would be handicapped by the clearances needed for fenders. All you have to do is mount the brake bridge high enough for the fender to get under the brakes. The chainstays are a cm or 2 longer than a modern race bike, but again, I defy anyone to show me that this is a disadvantge in a race. FWIW, RB-1s had what's often called "stage racing" geometry. Pretty much standard Euopean racing geometry until the last 3 or 4 years. For those teams whose bike sponsors do custom bikes for the riders, it still is. The frames they SELL are tight-and-upright, but the team bikes are probably a bit longer and slacker than you think they are.

As far as the eyelets themseles go, all 4 of them together weigh about as much as a quarter.

Please tell me how these small changes disqualify the RB-1 as a racing bike. Of course, if you care what your buddies think....

Peace and Grease,
--Shannon
Chrome Fork?marron
Aug 25, 2003 2:09 PM
I don't recall RB-1s ever using a chromed fork. They were all painted to match the frame. The rest of the frame does looks like an RB-1 and how wrong can you go for $350?
re: Have a chance to pick this up cheap - comments please!xcandrew
Aug 27, 2003 2:57 AM
That bike looks very nice. It's always cool to see something like that in new condition. It may be a Bridgestone RB-1, but not from the early 90's. I have the Bridgestone catalogs from 1991-1994 and all the RB-1's have short (41 cm) chainstays (which I don't like... that one looks better proportioned to me) and no chrome. The La Vie Claire stuff is wrong too. I have a bike with the same derailleurs/shifters so I would date the Shimano components on the bike to the 1986-87 model year and the frame would probably be from that time period too. Whether or not it is a Bridgestone or some other make, it looks like a high quality frame from the mid-80s (and I would guess it is a Bridgestone based on the decal... why would someone put that there otherwise?) The brakes are really nice top-of-the-line stuff. The indexing right lever will probably break on you with some use and you'll have to use it in the friction mode where it won't have enough friction (slips). It's not a big problem to find substitute shifters when that happens - some simplex/mavic or Campagnolo retrofriction shifters would be sweet on something like that.