May 12, 2003 7:30 PM
|I have my eye on a Pinarello Montello frame...it's SLX all the way through...though the paint is rough (the usual sub-standard paint job on mid to late-eighties Italian steel)the chrome is not pitted. Here is my question...I've heard that Pinarellos from this era are short in the top tube, giving more of a "crit" type geometry. I personally prefer a longish TT and hate the criterium geometry. This is an internet buy and it is not built up so no chance of a test ride. Anyone here no about Pinarellos and if this is true
May 13, 2003 12:39 AM
|Pinarello geometry has not changed substantially over the years and their ST to TT measures have remained fairly constant going back to the 70's.|
May 13, 2003 10:05 AM
|Without measuring three 54cm bikes I'm pretty certain that my wife's 198? Pinni has a longer top tube than a Colnago but shorter than a Merckx.|
May 23, 2003 5:52 PM
|i've got a mid 90's lugged rello. pinarellos have geom. close to classic italian stage race... like a cinelli super corsa. |
my 54 has a 54.5 tt, 40.7 cs. can't measure angles nor fork rake but tghe ride is stable and fast. cornering is fast and you have to control the front not to "over turn". actually i can corner fats with no hands, using my hips...
steel pinarellos feel good.
|re: Pinarello question....||nelson|
May 22, 2003 8:25 AM
|The SLX Pinarellos were the last ones with their older geometry. They had a slightly steeper seat tube than with their current geometry. This did indeed make the top tube slightly shorter, though the fit should stay about the same due to the change in seat angle. Be aware that Pinarellos of this era were measured from the center of the bottom bracket to the TOP of the seat LUG. This made them measure two centimeters larger than the center to center measurement used on later frames.|
|re: Pinarello question....||NEIL|
May 27, 2003 11:56 AM
|I owned the very bike you speak of. A '89 Montello SLX, chrome fork, seat and chain stays. It had the decal touting Pedro Delgado's win in the '88 TDF on the downtube between the shifter boses. The welds were very nice, the finish quality was iffy. Decals on top of the clear coat and half peeling off when I bought it new. The front derailuer hanger was brazed on crooked, and so I had to bend it back straight, not the thing you want to be doing on a brand new frame!
The scheme I had was Spumoni, reddish-orange at the bb, blue at the head tube, and light green at the seat post, all fading to white in the middle of the tubes with black Pinarello type. I've only seen a few around since mine was stolen. Mine was small, a 51cm c-t, and ride was harsh. It rattled my teeth on rough roads. A larger size in SLX might ride fine. The bike was twichy, handling was very nimble, almost tiring though. You had to constantly correct it or you'd be off your line. It was replaced by a Tommasini Diamante with MS tubes, which I still ride. It's ride is much smoother, and the handling is still quick but doesn't require so much micro maintenence in riding as the Montello. The T's finish quality is a step or two above as well. No sloppy paint or decals and still perfect lugwork.
Might be a good deal if you can get a good price for it. Factor in a Cycle Art re-paint, then it's not such a good deal.
|Thanks, my big worry is a twitchy ride. I've owned and liked||Djudd|
May 27, 2003 8:18 PM
|bikes that might be considered too nimble, that was when I was 17 and had racing desires. I'm 40 now and like to spend my days in the saddle with an ultra stable ride. Twitchy sounds a lot like "crit" in my lexicon. The price is $295 which might be too much with a re-paint anyway.
thanks for the input