|dating a motobecane||moschika|
Apr 11, 2003 10:27 PM
|is there anyway to date motobecanes?|
Apr 11, 2003 10:45 PM
|here is the head badge. looks older then what's at classic rendezvous' website.|
Apr 12, 2003 5:13 AM
|Fancy lugs and centerpull brakes had all but disappeared by 1976, and not many derailer bikes were imported before 1965 or so. My guess is that it's an early 70's.|
Apr 12, 2003 7:03 PM
|I think very early 70's. The 74 I describe below has a later headbadge, consisting just of the M with a pair of symmetrical wings beneath, and it is stuck on, not riveted.|
|Looks a lot like this . . .||micha|
Apr 12, 2003 5:37 AM
|. . . Gran Record.
Apr 12, 2003 10:47 AM
|i noticed that after i had posted. but mine is the grand jubile.
which is not listed on the site. was this something between the Jubilee and Grand Record?
Apr 12, 2003 3:31 PM
|I'm guessing it was between the Jubilee and Gran Record. The term "Gran" ties it together. Nice bike!|
Apr 12, 2003 6:32 PM
|It's my understanding that the Gran Jubilee was offered for several years and may have varied in components, but as a starting point, here is one of them, bought new by my wife in 1974, which has Huret Jubilee derailleurs, cotterless Stronglight cranks, 27 inch wheels and Weinmann center-pull brakes. The frame is Reynolds 531, with the label "trois tubes renforcées," which presumably means that the main tubes are butted, but the rear triangle is not.|
|Older than 1978 w/o doubt||Walter|
Apr 12, 2003 6:27 PM
|In that year I bought a brand new Moto and it had the more familiar "winged M" headbadge. I saw a 75 catalog on eBay and think it had the winged badge as well so oler than 175 probably. May be a pre-Boom bike. Leather saddle?|
|no leather saddle||moschika|
Apr 13, 2003 8:43 AM
|actually no saddle or seatpost at all. it has the wienmann centerpulls, cotterless stronglight crank, 27" wheels, a technomic stem with a super long quill. Normandy rear hub and Sunshine front.|
|Transplants over the years||Walter|
Apr 14, 2003 3:50 AM
|I doubt a Moto of that vintage would have any Asian parts. The Weinmanns and Normandy rear are probably original.
The Nitto is a nice addition. If you don't need an extra-long quill stem for fit purposes there's always a market for those stems. However 22mm stems are somewhat rare so don't part with it unless you've got a replacement lined up.
|now it has a leather saddle||moschika|
Apr 24, 2003 3:43 PM
|just picked up a used leather saddle off e-bay that supposedly came off a Grand Record. complete with "M" logo.|| |