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Humma Hah, cruiser question(4 posts)

Humma Hah, cruiser questionlaffeaux
Mar 19, 2003 4:29 PM
What can you tell me about this bike:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2717664331&category=2904

I know it's not a lot to go on. I'm looking for a bit of a project bike (not that I need one), and this could possibly fit the bill.

How were old Schwinn's sized? Or was it one size fits all?
I'm suspicious ...Humma Hah
Mar 20, 2003 6:57 AM
I need to dig out my Schwinn book and see how the earliest cantilever Schwinns were built. The design does date back to sometime in the 30's, and I'm not sure how different the pre-WWII canti's are. The bike in the picture is unlike any canti I've seen, but my experience is bikes from the 50's and later.

The bike in the picture lacks the blade fork I'm familiar with. It does not have the "electro-forged" joints that resemble fillet brazing. In general line and small details, it looks more to me like an imitation.

You'll notice the auction closed with no bids. The collectors wouldn't touch it. If it had been authentic, I suspect a pre-WWII canti would have fetched a price that would make you gasp.

They were sized by wheel diameter most commonly as 26-inch, and by tire width as heaviweight, mid-weight, and lightweight.

Mine, sold with S7 rims (26 x 1 3/4) is a midweight, and the S2 rims (26 x 2) are heaviweight. They were one-size fits ... sorta ... most. I've been riding this size Schwinn frame since I was 12, when I could barely reach the pedals with the seat all the way down. I can ride it today only by using platform pedals, as I'd be unable to get comfortable seated without pedaling with my arches.
Thankslaffeaux
Mar 20, 2003 10:38 AM
I asked the seller many questions (i.e. how much rust is there?) and never received a reply. I passed as well.
I took a close look at some of the later pictures ...Humma Hah
Mar 20, 2003 4:30 PM
... and that's one strange frame. On a Schwinn canti, I'm pretty sure from day one, the two thin seat stays continued up and ran below the a single larger top tube to make that graceful characteristic Schwinn cruiser arch. The bike in the pics seems to have the seat stays continue to BECOME a double top-tube. A second pair of thin tubes then sprout below the top ones at the seat tube, and make the lower pair.

I believe this frame is a cheap asian knock-off of fairly recent vintage, which I vaguely recall seeing once before.

The seat is the only thing that says Schwinn, and I don't recognize it, either. It could be that name tag was stuck on it.

Schwinns usually have a characteristic head-badge, which I notice they studiously avoided showing.

Serial numbers are not a help with the pre-WWII Schwinns. The original records were destroyed in a fire sometime in the 40's.