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Campy NR derailleur price question.(7 posts)

Campy NR derailleur price question.wspokes
Nov 1, 2002 6:47 AM
I noticed when looking at some of Hilary Stone's auctions a NR rear derailleur and reading the description answered some questions for me. I have a NR derailleur in good condition with only "patent" on it, therefore it is an older one. I wonder what it would fetch $$. I could use some extra bucks to finish a project or two or three....
if it helps for an idea .....Spirito
Nov 1, 2002 11:57 AM
i had sold 3 NOS patent NR '72,'73,and '74 (all in box) on ebay for around $145. i also sold a take-off with no wear '62-ish Rally with no box for $165 which i was a little surprised at especially as it was to a US buyer.

i would imagine a "patent" only in good used condition to bring in around $85 - more if the pics and condition looks sharp.

keep in mind that it can be a good trading or bait swapping item on the CR list. if you would use the $'s to then pay a premium for a set of period cranks of wheels then sometimes its better to do a swap with someone who wants the derailleur and has what you want. its certainly worth a try first.

a lot of the CR listers dont have $'s but thay are sitting on or hoarding a lot of vintage parts and are more disposed for swapping. if you are ebaying the derailleur your primary goal will be to end the auction during business hours in the far east (late evening our time). shipping will cost you about $18 with USPS global air mail if you want to add it into your decription to entice the buyers.

the premium that you make by selling on ebay is washed out if you will be looking to buy other stuff on ebay as well.

ciao
any good reference books?desmo
Nov 1, 2002 4:41 PM
not really concerned with value but would like to know how to tell the various vintages and what's what within the Campy line. something that would explain all the hieroglyphics, "patents", and subtlety between the groups.
everything i have wanted to know has come from either:-Spirito
Nov 1, 2002 6:13 PM
- archives from the classic rendezvous email list
- reading the discussions on the CR list (emailed daily)
- the classic rendezvous site itself
- ebay listings
- direct questions to members of the CR list (some have blown me away with their knowledge and detail)

and a few sites (no particular order)

http://members.aol.com/~satorumas/brands/brands.html
http://www.velostuf.com/
http://www.blackbirdsf.org/magpie/
http://www.campyonly.com/
http://bulgier.net/pics/bike/Catalogs/

there is always sheldon brown for all sorts of info

perhaps the best would be manufacturer catalogues (neither cheap or easy to find) but chuck schmidt has copies of most anything available for reasonable coin.

http://www.velo-retro.com/

when i cant find out something about a part or something i need to know then i just ask on any appropriate forum or site or amongst people i ride with. sometimes a LBS knows a thing or two - getting less so each day.

ciao
thanks for the feedback, also the book the dancing chaing also.wspokes
Nov 2, 2002 9:31 AM
As usual...thanks Spirito for the feedback. I have stumbled into a few campy parts of rarity and I am considering dumping them for the cash rather than building up projects with them. TOo many projects, too little time and money. I am focusing on finishing two projects right now...well three. The 1929 racer, the Razesa which is now close to completely zeus...I should have everything I need for the all zeus by next week. and then the fixie which is another Aquilla frameset. Can't beat the price for a beater! Thanks again...

Also the book "the dancing chain" is really interesting also for info on the history of derailleurs and shifting systems.
what about a NR rear der marked "brev int."desmo
Nov 5, 2002 9:33 PM
what's the scoop on these? I'm guessing late 70's or early 80's, but what does "brev int." imply? not made in Italy? what about the parts that say "patent" but with out any numbers? any insight would be appreciated.
what about a NR rear der marked "brev int."wspokes
Nov 6, 2002 4:29 AM
patent without any numbers were the earliest form, I believe. Dating probably from the initial entry of NR (1967?) to the market to one or two years then came the patent with numbers. Brev int., once again please don't quote me on any of these numbers, was I think mid to late 70s, or at least this is what I was told once a few years back. Hope this info helps.