|Does this qualify as classic?||Andy M-S|
Oct 23, 2002 10:57 AM
|I recently picked up a '92 Bridgestone RB2, in nearly new condition. Does this entitle me to use the "Retro" board or is it just too new?
Nice things about the RB2: Almost (tho not quite) the same frame as the RB1, vertical dropouts, lots of clearance, short-reach brakes, indexing/friction DT shifters, dropouts spaced to 128mm (or so I'm told) so that my 8/9-speed wheels fit perfectly.
If you're at all interested, take a peek at the "Classic" photo in the bike shots section. I'm planning a number of changes, including better brake levers (I've never liked DiaCompe), ergo handlebars w/deep purple cork tape--since the bike is grape metallic). I've already swapped better wheels in (and it makes a HUGE difference--the old ones are heavy as lead)...and a slightly-used Flite, black with no embroidery, is on its way.
Take a look, if you're at all interested, and make your suggestions as to what should be changed. The goal is a fun all-around ride--commuting, group rides, that sort of thing.
When the terrain gets interesting and the going high-speed, there's always the Ergo-equipped Bianchi, but I'd like this one to end up looking a bit less bio-mechanical, if you know what I mean...
|Only 10 years old and you're UPGRADING?!!||Humma Hah|
Oct 23, 2002 12:11 PM
|This is NOT the retro spirit! Maybe a fixie conversion, or you could mount down-tube shift levers on it.
But, what the heck, it IS from the last millenium, so I gues we'll let you hang around here. Just don't go telling us about UPGRADES!
|It already HAS DT shifters...||Andy M-S|
Oct 23, 2002 1:31 PM
|It's already got DT shifters! And I'm keeping 'em. In fact, I'm thinking of getting some of Rivendell's "Silver" retrofriction shifters for it. The DT's are for 7-speed (they are also frictionable, and running that way now), and I expect I'll be dropping whatever wheel happens to be lying around into this bike, so friction is the way to go.
Good point--it's such a '90s thing.
I don't see all this as "upgrading," rather as customizing the bike. Now, if I stuck STI on it, THAT would be upgrading...
|Well, alrighyty then ...||Humma Hah|
Oct 23, 2002 3:38 PM
|... in that case, you're definitely in the club.
Now, about the initiation rites ... get some bloody knuckles wrenching on it!
No way I can object to customizing. The only stock parts on my retro '71 bike are the frame (well, if you don't include the custom powdercoat and non-original color), chainguard (but again, custom color and those custom decals), and the stem and chainwheel.
|re: Does this qualify as classic?||desmo|
Oct 23, 2002 4:52 PM
|it's a classic now if you were 13 years old in '92 and used to go look at it when new with lust but no cash.|
|Man oh man||Walter|
Oct 23, 2002 5:33 PM
|That's as true a description of "classic" as I ever have or expect to ever run across.|
|re: Does this qualify as classic?||Andy M-S|
Oct 23, 2002 6:14 PM
|In '92 I was 34 and had two kids and no money. I had had to give away my bike when I moved to a new job (no room in the moving van for the old '77 Raleigh Grand Prix). I owned a Salvation Army Schwinn Varsity (all 40# of it) until someone stole it from our garage.
Now I have four kids and no money. But I'm going to have some decent bikes!
|Your wife may not agree, but ...||Humma Hah|
Oct 23, 2002 6:41 PM
|... decent bikes are among the most affordable indulgences, and they're GOOD for you besides!
Retro bikes may well be the most affordable for the quality. The simple fact is that, performance-wise, a good 30-year-old bike with 10-12 speeds can easily hang with all but the most testosterone-hyped group rides, do double-centuries, and maybe even win the occasional amateur race. Retro track bikes are hardly different from modern track bikes. 100-year-old fixies could slip in with modern fixies and would be overlooked until somebody spotted the skip-tooth chainring and wooden rims.
And given the choice between a Wright Van Cleve and a Colnago C-40, I wouldn't trade a Wright for 100 of the Colnagos.
|They slipped in and stole your....||wspokes|
Oct 24, 2002 2:54 AM
|A Scwinn varsity...and they got away without you walking them ...I mean running them down. I remember working in Harrisburgh in 92 at Ski-ko bicycle shop. We had an old Schwinn and we used to have the Hollywood hill climb. A horrendously steep hill behind the shop. We used to take running starts and try and make it all the way up. Amusing fun for those slow shop days!|
Oct 24, 2002 4:40 AM
|Yeah, it was a pretty bad bike, and it was WAAAAY too large (and consequently, heavier than normal). But it was my bike.
I guess I must've paid $10 or so for it 1990; the problem was that I was still in the 10-speed mode of thought, still lamenting my dear departed Raleigh.
The thing about having it stolen was that I didn't know nuts about bike shops, etc., etc., and even if I had, I suspect all that I would have found would have been MTBs. For me, that's not a bike; only something with drop handlebars is a bike.
Anyway, if I had bought this '92 RB2 brand new, and I couldn't have afforded $500+ in '92, it wouldn't have meant much to me. Now, knowing the rep of the RB1 (its geometric twin) and some other history, it's much more meaningful. Not to mention cheaper...
|Classic, legendary, Rivendell-prototype, BOBish ...||scottfree|
Oct 24, 2002 6:34 AM
|All the really neat adjectives apply. Your bike is welcome here anytime, and you too unless you do something to ruin her!|
|As a proud and boastful owner of RB-1, I welcome you...||Djudd|
Oct 24, 2002 4:40 PM
|however don't say RB-2's have the same frame as the legendarily beautiful and severly under-appreciated RB-1...similar is the word you are searching for|
Oct 25, 2002 6:22 AM
|According to the '92 catalog, they are identical in geometry, but the RB2 uses seamed tubing and a less fancy fork, and weighs (frame and fork) on the order of 6oz more.
Of course, the RB1 had it all over the RB2 in terms of componentry, something I will be remedying in the next few weeks :-)...and I would love to have the RB-1/8 paintjob (yellow with white panels).
In any event, it's a great ride, and I'm on the lookout for some Suntour power-ratchet downtube shifters for it...
|I was entirely tongue-in-cheek...eBay has the power ratchet...||Djudd|
Oct 27, 2002 5:30 PM
|DT shifters... good luck with your bike. Keep me posted on the progress|
|So I suspected...||Andy M-S|
Oct 27, 2002 5:54 PM
|From your moniker.
I've made a lot of changes, and I should have a good picture up in a week or so...