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Flying Dutchman?Larry1096
Oct 8, 2002 11:54 AM
Has anyone ordered a "Flying Dutchman" frame from Jack's Bicycle Closeouts? Supposed to be full 531, GPM dropouts and english threaded, made in Italy as a house brand in the early '80s. I figured I'd take a chance, as it's only $60 with shipping-just looking for anyone with experiences, good or bad.

re: Flying Dutchman?wspokes
Oct 9, 2002 3:07 AM
Yes, what do you need to know? Don't expect flawless craftsmanship. They will most likely have Aquilla or GPM dropouts. They were supposedly made in Italy but that is questionable although it is indeed full 531 MAIN FRAME. which is still fine. Accepts 5-6 speeds. you'll be spreading the frame for anything else. It is indeed english threading, you will need a downtube shifter clamp on bracket as there is no other type in place. I have a kelly green one right now in my basement that I was going to sell at T-town. They have brought the prices down again on the website. I know many who originally paid much more. if you need any other info, let me know

re: Flying Dutchman?Larry1096
Oct 9, 2002 4:14 AM
Thanks, Walt.
I guess I was just curious, due to the low price. Does it ride alright?
And mine was billed as "531 throughout"-your's was only the triangle?
I'm a retro grouch these days, so the 120 spacing and stuff is no problem for me, and I didn't expect a Cinelli for $60...still, I'd hate to buy junk, if you know what I mean?

Thanks again,
re: Flying Dutchman?wspokes
Oct 9, 2002 9:57 AM
I believe you will find the sticker will read:
Guarenteed built with Reynolds 531 Main. birmingham?, England.

My definitely says Main only. positively! They aren't a bad looking bike either. I never finished building it up. I bought several different bicycles to build for projects then found a 1929 racer project and decided to devote a little time to it. Therefore I am selling these off for accomadate for the Charlie gib 29 expenditure!

I am going to sell mine for the $100 that I paid. Which I think you will find is still a decent deal. It should make a nice bike for the money. Especially if you are a retro grouch with parts laying around. The fork is a chrome crown I believe with the rest painted. They usually also have chrome dropouts! The lugs, although not painstakingly built, have interesting little cutouts that are painted within giving it a cool look. What color? The one I have is Kelly green and can be seen at T-town veloswap. The transparent green color is awesome!! My buddy uses a FD for a commuter and has his decked out with racks and he has no complaints! He paid $150 several years ago for his!

Good luck
re: Flying Dutchman?Larry1096
Oct 9, 2002 12:59 PM

Thanks for all the info! I guess for $45 plus $15 shipping, 531 main tubes would be okay...

I wonder how much variation there is in these bikes? Mine was listed as no chrome anywhere, flat fork crown. Regardless, it sounds like it should be a good 'fun' steel bike.

Again, thanks for the info.

Is the shop still open?Walter
Oct 10, 2002 5:06 PM
I tracked down the site and saw some frames for prices that can't really go wrong, a Libertas for $15. Looks like no fork but Nashbar has some on sale for $30 and all I want to do is run a front brake anyways since it'll be a fixie.

Anyways all the other links are dead and no answer to email. Just need to know the BB threading.

Any contact ideas?
Never mind, just got an emailWalter
Oct 10, 2002 5:31 PM
and I think I found my frame.