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Anyone heard of a Miyata Victor?(9 posts)

Anyone heard of a Miyata Victor?NPA
Sep 24, 2002 10:26 AM
Or maybe Victory? i'm looking for a bike to build a SS or fixed gear and saw one of these at a pawn shop for $40. looked like a low-end bike from many years ago, but in good shape. components were basically no-name stuff, but the frame was very clean. while we're at it, what should i look for/avoid in a bike for fixed conversion?
any and all help appreciated- thanks
Horizontal dropouts are very important..Dave Hickey
Sep 24, 2002 10:43 AM
Since it's a Miyata, it probably has horizontal rear dropouts, but just make sure. Check www.sheldonbrown.com. He has a dedicated fixie/singlespeed conversion page
Even that low price sounds a little high...retro
Sep 24, 2002 11:03 AM
At least around here, you could probably do better if you checked the classified ads and thrift shops. But you can't go very wrong for 40 bucks, so I wouldn't waste much time....
I agree horizonal dropouts are nice to have, but if everything else is perfect, it IS possible to work without them. www.sheldonbrown.com has some advice on that, too. Basically, you can fiddle gear sizes by a tooth or two to get acceptable chain tension, or you could always add a tensioner or use an old derailleur. Mine worked out fine by going just one tooth bigger than I'd planned on the rear cog.
notesSteve_0
Sep 25, 2002 5:43 AM
agree you can ALWAYS get vert drops to work, but you'll certainly have limited gearing choices; for any given chainstay length you will typically have 3 or 4 gear-choices that work.. whaddare the odds its one you'll be comfortable with.

Fixed Innovations has an eccentric axle which helps alleviate this by giving a choice of 10-15 gear choices.

Regardless, probably moot as i presume a miyata has horizontal drops.

one other note; canNOT use a tensioner or derailleur if youre going fixed.,
Not familiar with the Victor, butscottfree
Sep 25, 2002 4:58 AM
Miyata made great frames, even at the low end, with their proprietary chromoly. Since all you're looking for is a frame, this sounds perfect for fixed/SS.
One other question...NPA
Sep 25, 2002 6:14 AM
does it matter if the bike has a triple or double? i'm not much of a mechanic and don't have any kind of spare parts laying around, so i'm looking for the simplest conversion possible. ideally i'd like to have a flip-flop
hub at some point.
nopeSteve_0
Sep 25, 2002 6:30 AM
you only need one ring. Just make sure whatever ring you need fits the cranks. Simplest (and cheapest) bet is to use one of the 3 rings you have now; theyre guarenteed to fit.
Thanks,guys. Sorry for the elementaryNPA
Sep 25, 2002 11:50 AM
questions. i'm just worried about getting into some weird thing where i can't make it work, but i'm sure its all simpler than i think. besides, you guys brought in on yourselves by posting all those pics of your too-cool fixies built from old bikes! don't know if i'll get the miyata,but sooner or later(make that sooner) i'll join the fixed gear crowd.
Thanks,guys. Sorry for the elementarySteve_0
Sep 26, 2002 3:32 AM
no sweat....i think your admitted elementary knowledge is reason to go for it! Too many cyclists (in my opinion) dont realize just how simple a machine the bike is.... and rely too heavily on a mechanic. Building a FG is a good intro.

And dont worry, as long as the bike has horizontal dropouts, nothing will prevent you from an easy conversion.