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mate # 2 finally has his ride finishedSpirito
Jul 29, 2002 4:32 PM
took a little while longer than i had wished but his Atala is finally finished.

he sold my old torpado (frameset, cranks wheels) which was way to small for him to mate # 1 (single speed). sold the torpado's derailleurs and shifters (on greedbay) which never worked very well anyway but were italian to buy NOS japanese components and the other need parts that work great and were dirt cheap (derailleurs, shifters, brakes, seat post, chain, clamps, bartape). kept the torpado's saddle, bar/stem and pedals. bought a frameset, crankset and wheelset that was in NJ and wheeled it accross the george Washington bridge on a very scenic afternoon into Manhattan (the home af all styling bikes).

it was a fiddly and frustrating affair as again the budget was next to nothing. after swapping, selling and purchasing the all up total outlay was around $135 (which is spooky as mates #'s 1 and 3 costs were $135 and $130 as well). oh ... and a lot of swear words. 3 nice rides for $400 is almost a full time job getting together.

the biggest hassle was new brakes (short reach and recessed) on an old frame. bit of butchering which involved drilling the back of the front fork crown and fashioning the worlds ugliest drop bolt for the rear. if i had to do it again i would have opted for keeping it standard but the dia-compe brakeset was a bargain and new in box - was close to being the straw that broke the camels back for a second though.

the front shimano derailleur is probably for a triple but as it was a bargain and new so i couldnt argue. was an excersize in patience as the clearance to the crank arm (very low Q factor) is minute but i have managed to get it aligned enough to work. if anyone wants to swap their road double with a 28.6 band clamp in good or better condition let me know.

i also learnt a lesson in seatposts as i scored a new sugino in a 26.6 size and it would slip as it needs a 26.8. i never had a hassle interchanging these 2 sizes before now. shims in local stores were all too wide and as much as i hate to say a custom tailored sunkist can was used to make a perfect fit.

scoured lots of old bike stores just 2 get the cable and downtube clamps and steel bottle cage. my gift to mate was the world champion foils around the seat tube as the paint was recent and with no decals - hence great price. without nthem the frame looked a little bare. will be scanning, and photoshoping and seeing if i can make some new decals to use for the frame.

its big (63cm c-c) but its rider is 6'4" and will now be much better fitted compared to the 58cm Torpado. i dropped the seat down and took it for a spin to test and am very happy (as well as releived) with how how it rides. all the parts work very well. mate will be seeing it for the first time tomorrow. the 27" x 1 1/4 actually impressed me as id never ridden that size wheels before and will be suited to use on the bad city roads.

in all its a cool bike. italian frame with miche cranks, itm bar and stem and all else is suntour, dia-compe, shimano, ukai and sugino. sure the flite saddle, aero brake levers and look pedals arent correct but for the price and considering most of the components were new i think its a faoir compromise. oh yes ..... the top tube brake cable clamp closest to the stem is campagnolo ... gotta have a bit of campy in there.

apart from the humble narrator's ride im not building or touching another bike for a very long while. one of these
days im gonna have to get a bike stand as well ... a topeak alien, wall and a chair, drill, round file, hammer, pliers are not that the best tools to be using to work on bikes. but at least i can get a neighbour or passer lend me a hand everytime im out on the stoop with my improvised bike shop. lets call it a labor of love ;-)

just plain sexySpirito
Jul 29, 2002 4:33 PM
i have to agree.colker
Jul 29, 2002 4:43 PM
deep dark red italian bike and it's white flite secured on a silver seatpost. sex.
colks ....Spirito
Jul 29, 2002 5:03 PM
even though i said above i wont be building anymore bikes for mates i would be glad to apply the "spirito ghetto fabulous bike design school" for one more special if you made the move here to NYC.

rent is expensive but your bike will be cheap ...... :-)

well maybe one for ahimsa as well, ... ok one for walter, .. actually djudd, lone gunman, tron, mr. hickey, and the rest of you here as well.

truth be told ... if i know the person i am building the bike for it makes it so much more personal and becomes all consuming. i enjoy it as much as the new owners are proud of them.

none of the guys were interested this time last year when i suggested they all get bikes and come riding with me but after a lot of hunting and searching for bargains locally and close to me they are now converts which makes me not only proud but allows me in a way to show my appreciateion for their friendship.

as soon as mine is built we will head on a 40 mile grand tour of the city. fozen margherita's in all bottle cages as we pay homage to our days of stumbling out of bars at dawn in search of a falafel. now we can all be respectable, get drunk and look for kicks during the day whilst looking very classic. i guess we are maturing....

its taken me a long while to appreciate a cheaper bike more than an expensive one. takes much more effort and thought and in that usually has its own unique character.

viva la bici
the next time I am in the city I will...Djudd
Jul 29, 2002 5:43 PM
look for the bikes with the white saddles and ask if they know you...beautiful bike, my friend. I will actually be in NYC next week to get my wheels for the fixie Schwinn rebuild at Bike Works (on my way to the old homestead in Woodstock, I am bringing my best girl, a Bridgestone RB-1 to ride those Catskills baby!!) and maybe stay to see Lance on Sunday.
ill leave your name on the guest list ...Spirito
Jul 29, 2002 6:16 PM
to the white saddle owner's club post race bash ( i have a little influence in this elite club actually). actually your a journo - you should be able to bullshit your way in.

high up in the VIP marquee overlooking the race where we so ironically shout "watch 'yer line" as we hang out with Simoni's dentist. followed later with tequila drinking games with Lance (who's first bike was a mercier with a white saddle) as talk about great white saddle owners of days gone by whilst i do a little fettling on his trek on my stoop. he laments that good spanner men are hard to find and again offers me big $$$'s to be his personal tour mechanic but he knows that its old school or nothin' with me and no amount of coin would ease my distaste at them poncy treks he is paid to ride. we go wayback so im allowed to call him a sell-out.

i have told him to go for his 6th title on his old school motorola (steel with chrome) and complete campy c-record with friction shifters, delta brakes and a special white regal that ive had set aside for him as a secret weapon. he acknowledged that it would be the only way to surpass Eddy as the greatest legend. finally Lance will be stylin' .......
I think I can get an invite as...Djudd
Jul 29, 2002 6:41 PM
my Bridgestone has a...yes... WHITE avocet saddle that I refuse to give though it is now eleven years old (as is the bike). A guy told me, not too long ago that, a saddle is no good after six years of moderate riding... I laughed as he was on a plastic bike-like thing with a sloping top tube and these funny things where the brake levers usually are that he said costs hundreds of dollars to repair. His own saddle was this sad small plank that looked like a middle ages torture device. I laughed heartily and told him to please save his advice for his foolish friends as I like riding too much to participate in his illogic.
Jul 30, 2002 3:35 AM
it will be the bike that will have me ridin everyday. now i need to arrange this trip to NY.(brazilian money has lost 50% of it's value towards dollar in 45 days.aahh..joys of the third world)
i think i set a record for swearing ....Spirito
Jul 29, 2002 4:37 PM
but luckily my neighbours were cool ... they settled me with some music and diverted me when i was well past my limits of focus and concentration.
spirito's school of ghetto mechanic inspirationSpirito
Jul 29, 2002 4:43 PM
go to hardware store and buy steel bracket for hanging shelves, the wear out 2 drill bits 'coz i dont have a grinder or a saw. clamp everything down super tight and then spend the evening alone cos the "chicas" is sick of a bed full of drill shavings.

ugly - yes, cheap - more than you would believe ... but it works and i got so sick of Bike store counter jockeys looking at me like i was from a diffferent planet when i asked if they had any drop bolts.

when i doubt and ready to give up get desperate - it just may work.

balancing flash to ambient light has always eluded me ...Spirito
Jul 29, 2002 5:33 PM
but this may be a better or more indicative pic.
White saddlesWalter
Jul 30, 2002 7:22 AM
Well Spirito you know of one and I will get pics some fine day. It's on a red Colnago Master. There's a white saddle on my blue Basso and my Schwinn LeTour fixie has a ragged but still pretty white Super Turbo that I rode extensively in the mid-late 80s.

Do I qualify? Can I join? What's the dues? Is there a magazine?
White saddlesspewak
Jul 30, 2002 3:25 PM
where do you get a white saddle anyway? since i bought my old peugeot which already has white cabling and brake levers on an orange frame, i was thinking of going full creamsicle with white bar tape and seat too.
White saddlesspewak
Jul 30, 2002 3:26 PM
oh and how do you keep all that white stuff clean?
brake hoods?DougSloan
Jul 30, 2002 12:29 PM
I have some white brake hoods on my 1980 Bianchi (hoods like new), but would prefer black. Interested in a trade?

sounds cool but it wont work ....Spirito
Jul 30, 2002 1:40 PM
if you see the front on pic you will notice that the brake lever hoods are only sleeves on the rear portion and the front part where the lever attaches is hard and immovable plastic.

i suppose for $14.75 for a whole brakeset (calipers, levers, cables and housing) they gotta scrimp somewhere. the silver housing unfortunately was a little short as its a tall/long frame - i guess the engineers at dia-compe weren't planning on a 63cm c-c frame.