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Confession of a betrayal(9 posts)

Confession of a betrayalscottfree
Jun 10, 2002 10:32 AM
Swore I'd never do it, but I came into a little 'found' money last week and -- I have no idea why -- went down to my LBS and stunned my longtime (and long suffering) wrench by buying a 'modern' new bike from him. I won't bore you with the details, but for purposes of this story you need to know it's an Ultegra bike

After a couple hundred miles on the thing, I have one observation: While STI is undeniably more convenient, and I can see why racers love it, my long suspicion has been borne out: Top-of-the-line 18-year-old Suntour friction shifting is smoother and quieter and just a lot damn more PLEASING than just-below-top-of-the line STI.

Love the bike, like the STI, no complaints here. But at this point I'm not sure the drivetrain of 'modern' bikes is any improvement at all over the retro stuff.

It'll be nice not having to scrounge for parts, though.
re: Confession of a betrayalWalter
Jun 10, 2002 4:46 PM
I hear you about the parts scrounging. I also hear you about the smoothness of quality friction shifting. Nothing intrinsically wrong with owning modern stuff (I have to say that, I own 2 Ergo shifted bikes myself)

The thing is getting the techno-weanies to realize that there's nothing wrong, and quite abit right, about the older stuff.

Actually that's a lost cause and I've long since given up.
While we are confessing here...Djudd
Jun 10, 2002 4:47 PM
I must confess I bought a Trek 1500 frame, circa 1991. I have a a Bicycle Guide from 1989 (Merckx and Hampsten on the cover) wherein Trek's new 1500 aluminum was reviewed. A friend of mine bought one that year and after riding his I always wanted one. I recently saw one for sale for $120.00 and couldn't resist. I even went through my old mags and broke out the Bicycle Guide with the review in it.
This is my first non-steel bike. I hope this does not make me a bad person.
slowly the cracks begin to appear.......hehehehehSpirito
Jun 10, 2002 7:33 PM
just kidding :-)

nought wrong with experiencing everything i say....

but granted as mentioned above the pure and classic lines of old is what has us by the "proverbials" and thats what is cool and of importance.

why just today i recieved a few more parts for the merckx build (sheesh how long is this gonna take). yes im still calling it a classic as it will have freewheel hubs, friction downtube shifting and a quill stem but todays parts are selling out a little as the bottom bracket is a current campy carbon Track (111mm - symmetrical to fit the c-record cranks onto), campy record brake levers (yes carbon - but not shifters - tired of hunting for vintage brake hoods) and FIR SC170 rims (but in the old school classic # of 36 holes). funnily i insisted on a chorus headset over a record item as it looked more classic and is without the black marking on the top nut.

still waiting on the hubset to arrive - so badly wanted these and can't wait to lace them up. will spill the beans on these later. all the rest is ready apart from bartape and a chain. it will be my take on the best of old with concessions for practicality and function of new bits. who knows..... ill post when its built and ive ridden it to know whether its all good or otherwise.

still trying to figure out how to strip the "record" logo off the carbon levers......

hey djudd.....sort them belgian players out man...they are only a step away......

Wilmots is the man...showin that Belgian pride baby!!!Djudd
Jun 10, 2002 8:20 PM
Without friction, there is little pleasure.128
Jun 11, 2002 5:52 AM
So from penance we're absolved.
What sin is brought from pressure,
Indexing cannot solve.
In digital manipulation,
secret treasures, and the fall
it must be Love as great as life as
God's hand too is involved.
But Integration brings the future
Science, Nature and us all.
So do confess your retro-lust
and go right out and have a ball.
Without friction, there is little pleasure.wooglin
Jun 11, 2002 6:40 AM
Too bad that won't fit on my chain stays....
also, people shift too much with STIgtx
Jun 11, 2002 6:24 AM
when I do the occaissional group ride I notice that people shift too much and too early these days--I'll gap people all the time by accident transitioning into a short rise, simply because they're shifting and I'm not. Also, you'll never miss a front shift with a downtube shifter. But I'm preaching to the choir here...
128 Wins Poet-Laureate Of The Retro Forum!!!! nmDjudd
Jun 11, 2002 8:20 AM