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New Rambouillet (long)Ray Sachs
May 29, 2002 7:32 AM
I own and have owned several nice bikes, but my Rivendell Road (picture posted in the first week or so of this forum) has been my favorite ride since the day I got it. I've been looking (without success) for a less expensive bike with the same ride characteristics that I could keep dressed up with fenders, fatter tires, toe clips instead of clipless, and a heavy old Brooks saddle. A bike to ride on nasty weather days when I wouldn't ride the Riv, to ride in street clothes, on tours, to let visiting friends ride, etc. So when Rivendell announced they were producing the Rambouillet, essentially a copy of the model they used to call the "long low", I jumped on it and ordered one.

It got here last week and after several rides, I have to say I'm blown away by it. It has slightly more relaxed geometry than the Riv and a slightly longer wheelbase, so I was expecting a somewhat lethargic ride, but NO! It's slightly more stable than my Rivendell, but feels every bit as fast, and actually feels a little better to me on descents (I didn't think ANY bike could descend as well as the Riv). The stability of a touring bike, but as fast and nearly as responsive as a road bike. Grant Peterson may have his equipment quirks, but he's got frame design NAILED! I'm pretty amazed by the ride, perfect for centuries or brevets but plenty of fun on shorter rides too.

It's also a beautiful frame/fork. The paint is a metallic orange with white headtube and window fill that really sets off the lugs. It looks perfect from about 3 feet away or more - on closer inspection, there are minor imperfections (a bit of overspray in places and lug masking that missed slightly in places), but overall it's a real stunner (even my daugher, who HATES bikes, likes this one).

If anybody was thinking about one of these or just wants a classic looking bike with a sublime ride, don't hesitate to check this out. I'll hopefully be able to post pictures within a couple of weeks, but I doubt they'll do it justice.

But the REAL question: Did I screw up buying an Atlantis?cory
May 29, 2002 10:23 AM
I feel the same way about my Atlantis--had it a year and a half, and I almost can't imagine a better all-around bike. I've done everything from fire trails and even some singletrack to day-long road rides. Just a tire swap transforms the bike's character and feel. And I agree completely about the quality, paint etc. I can't find a mistake on the thing.
But now I'm looking in the catalog, and a little voice is saying, "ram-boo-lay...ram-boo-lay." Do I need BOTH?
"Do I need BOTH?"Ahimsa
May 29, 2002 2:37 PM
Heck no brother! You need a Heron touring frame like this one. Grant's the man responsible for this fine looking frame as well, so you'd still get the Riv magic with a twist.

Besides, then you could let me know how nice it is and thus I might find the self control necessary to save money and buy one m'self.

A b-b-b-b-bird bird bird, bird is the word...a-bird bird bird, bird is the word...

Heron Touring, Atlantis, and RambouilletRay Sachs
May 30, 2002 4:48 AM
I also have a Heron Touring (I've never tried a Grant Peterson frame I didn't love, so I have three now - I have other stuff as well but I've never gone wrong with one of his frames). Geometrically, the Heron Touring and Atlantis are nearly twins - the big difference is that the Atlantis can handle fatter tires. I'd guess the Atlantis and Heron Touring ride very, very similarly.

The Heron is remarkably smooth, stable, and relaxed and handled unloaded much better than any other touring bike I've ridden. It's not a bike that I'd ever choose for a fast group ride though. I'm notably slower on it, particularly climbing. Skinny tires and light wheels help, but it still isn't in the same league as the Riv Road or the Rambouillet when you're trying to get on down (or up) the road in any sort of hurry. The Atlantis should be similar, but I've been wrong based on geometry charts before.

I wasn't sure where the Rambouillet would slot in between the Riv and the Heron, but it's much, much, much closer to the Riv in ride and handling characteristics. I'd imagine the Heron Road would be more similar to the Riv and Rambouillet than the Heron Touring is. The Heron Touring is a very, very nice frame for it's intended use, but a very different animal than the Rambouillet.

No and yesSteveS
May 30, 2002 9:33 AM
No you didn't screw up buying the Atlantis, and "yes" get a Ram. I like Rivendell and hope they get good buyer support. If you go to the website, they are posting a 58cm Ram prototype used by Grant in a nice light blue. Might be a great snag.

There is always room for one more bike.
post a picturebianchi boy
May 29, 2002 7:09 PM
it's worth a thousand words, you know
OK, here's one finallyRay Sachs
Jun 1, 2002 6:22 PM
OK, here's one finallySteveS
Jun 1, 2002 8:27 PM
Looks great, I like it and I am not even a fan of orange.
nice ride ray.....Spirito
Jun 2, 2002 12:09 AM
i think we may also hold the classic and retro forum annual BBQ at your neat spread - ill bring the sausages :-)
really nice ...bianchi boy
Jun 2, 2002 6:48 PM
I actually found the photos on the Rivendell site after asking you to post, but I like seeing how you've got yours set up. Looks like a nice comfy ride.