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Specialized Allez revisited(14 posts)

Specialized Allez revisitedwooglin
May 22, 2002 9:10 AM
Picked this up from an lbs the other day. Built, but never sold and subsequently stripped for parts. They say its mid-90s, but I have my doubts. Anybody have a clue? Rear spacing (measured with a ruler) is 128, so no help there. BB shell is stamped 58. When did Specialized stop making lugged steel?

LBS said it was originally built with Campy, but unless they built it themselves I'd be more likely to guess Ultegra or 600. Bought the thing cuz my other frame needs paint and I didn't want to be grounded in the mean time. Looking forward to riding the 3Rensho tubes, and will ultimately be faced with the dilemma of selling it or keeping it and building it up with other parts. I don't think it will replace my 531 frame, but you never know....

And does anybody know who's signature that is?
Detailswooglin
May 22, 2002 9:12 AM
Frame tubing sticker
Detailswooglin
May 22, 2002 9:13 AM
Fork tube sticker
Detailswooglin
May 22, 2002 9:14 AM
Chain stay sticker
i lusted for this bike...colker
May 22, 2002 9:47 AM
i guess it's around... 93. i guess again the signature is from specialized's product designer. specialized did a double sprad in bike magazines detailiing the tu bes and lugs. i may have been sold with campy!
i read a test on bicycling and they raved on the bike's smooth ride and good handling. great buy! specialized didn't sell it for long and went back to their carbon, aluminum routines. 2 years on their line maybe..
Yeah, early or mid-'90s sounds right to mecory
May 22, 2002 11:06 AM
I have one that looks similar, but was a notch down the line, I think--midline Shimano components and I forget what kind of tubing, but the same graphics and signature. I bought it used four or five years ago and can't remember the model year the guy told me, but seems like it was about '94. I still ride it fairly often (it lives at work in summer) and like it a lot.
American Flyers?DMoore
May 22, 2002 11:16 AM
That Spec. frame looks just like the Allez bikes featured in the old Kevin Costner movie, American Flyers. The decal script, etc. looks right. That movie was released in 1985, so it was probably filmed in '84. It would be my guess that your bike is from that period.
Thanks...wooglin
May 22, 2002 12:37 PM
...for the replies thus far. If folks remember these bikes from the early-mid 90s, I'm willing to settle for it. Lugged steel is timeless in my eyes, so it really doesn't matter anyhow. As for American Flyers, that was the first thing that popped into my mind, too. Now I just need a Shaver Sport jersey and I'll be just like Kevin (with a better spin, I hope).

If anyone has anything to add, I'd appreciate the info. I'm still curious why there's a 58 stamped in the bb shell. Seems low for a serial number.
58 - size perhaps? - it looks it NmSpirito
May 22, 2002 2:40 PM
Doh! Nmwooglin
May 23, 2002 4:03 AM
re: Specialized Allez revisitedTrent in WA
May 23, 2002 11:58 AM
This was my lust bike too. My favorite LBS has one, and it's about as expensive now as it was back then. :( The one they have is hung with full Suntour kit.

It's a sunny day... maybe it's time to go test ride bikes, hmmmnnn.

Trent
Mine is an'86 Spec.Allez SE with 600sis group and looks128
May 24, 2002 7:12 AM
very similar to what you've got there.(SE-special Edition) Same decals n' stuff. Same signature w/o the 'designed by' text. Don't know which 'jim'. I have the same s/t sticker w/o the '3 rensho'(?)oval though (I think). Mine is blue, had original yellow accents of cable housing and bar tape (re-done in black.)Yours looks re-painted??

Got this in excellent condition for a ten spot u.s. at a yard sale (perfect fit). See my earlier post down there somewhere) I too am intersted in information about these bikes.

Partial repost below fyi:

lugged steel
Full 600 group
Secialized stamp on head set bolt.
52/42 rings
13-24(?) cluster
(original)Saturae rear, Mavic replacement up front.
I love it.

Any way. I'm curious about the d/t shifters. Somewhat embarassed to say I didn't know until finding out by accident that the shifters have the option of friction or index with the twist of the D ring. I've gotten used to the friction and prefer it.

It's the 600sis tranny (became Ultegra).
Early 80's I would say.OperaLover
May 24, 2002 8:53 PM
As I have posted earlier, I lived in Japan from '86-'88 and lived in the same town where they built 3Rensho and raced with their club. Had a discussion with Konno-san and he said the first generation top of the line Allez was hand built by his builders in Japan. It is the same Ishiwata steel that he used for his own bikes and the small 3Rensho sticker is the only credit his company got for building the frames. That is an awesome frame built by one of the best torches in the business. You scored!!!
Conflicting infowooglin
May 25, 2002 5:36 AM
Sounds like I've got some research to do. I'm inclined to go with the early-mid 90s date since that's what the lbs said and a couple of folks remember them being built then, but there's enough disagreement to suggest that more digging is in order. I still haven't noticed a serial#, but I'll be prepping the frame for build up today or tomorrow, so I'll start looking for it. Then I guess its time to call Specialized and see what they can tell me.