|okay punter's...what will this go for?||Spirito|
May 10, 2002 11:08 AM
peugeot carbon fibre...looks pretty, not a lot of detail...i think its a vitus frame made for peugeot and if it is its desireable to me. and yes its classic - i think so anyway.
my guess? i cant say as i have already bid on it.
ideas or estimates?
|re: okay punter's...what will this go for?||Walter|
May 10, 2002 11:56 AM
Vintage carbon doesn't attract $ the way vintage steel can. Simplex rather than Campy too. I remember the Look carbon frames from my college riding days of '86,'87 or so. Most of us didn't take them real serious then...
I'd be surprised if it drew over $600 and I have no idea what the Reserve is but if it's not much above the current bid ($305) the bike may well go unsold. Depending on reserve you may get it cheap.
The bike doesn't meet my definition of "classic" but if it floats your boat.... (spins your crank?)
Look frame with Look decals and Campy would probably draw more.
|Compare that to ...||Humma Hah|
May 10, 2002 2:49 PM
|... this bike caught my attention, wish I could afford it. I keep looking for later-model Paramount fixie this size.
As I post it, this 1940's restored Paramount trackie was going for over $1200, with 6 days to go on the bidding. I'd just be guessing, but to me a carbon roadbike has some difficulty yet being called "vintage", yet an early carbon bike would probably have collector's value later on ... say maybe $600ish now, to a collector with long-term goals.
|From months of jealously watching...||Djudd|
May 10, 2002 3:41 PM
|ebay bike auctions my uneducated opinion tells me this bike's reserve better not be too high. An exotic material Peugeot is too esoteric for most ebayers. I think you got it my man|
|high bid ain't mine...i dont like reserve's on uncertainty nm||Spirito|
May 10, 2002 5:02 PM
|thats not for speculating .... that's a keeper.....||Spirito|
May 10, 2002 5:01 PM
|the peugeot i was looking at for riding and then selling when its renaissance makes it valuable. there is nothing like enjoying something and then selling it at a profit - why not?
the paramount on the other hand is something to never let go of. its buy it now is a fantastic teaser too.
what a bike - wow.
|thats not for speculating .... that's a keeper.....||Walter|
May 10, 2002 6:16 PM
|That Paramount is beautiful and needs to be displayed somewhere.
I remember a 6 Day Racer that appeared on eBay in late Sept. or early Nov. It was an Oscar Watsyn in unrestored but remarkably preserved condition. Original wood rims unwarped and sew-ups still pliable. Decals still intact too. Beautiful blue paint with gold accents. It never got a $1500 opening bid. I and a few others over at Oldroads.com still site that bike when we talk about the vagaries of vintage bike collecting. It should have sold, I should have sniped it at the last minute at that price. Hell, that bike would have gotten me on "Antique Roadshow." It was that cherry and it was actually badged as a Watsyn not a Paramount. Proximity to the Sept. 11th attacks probably doomed that auction. I do hope it reappears.
|Closed at $305 and under reserve||Walter|
May 11, 2002 8:55 AM
|Presence of a Reserve not a good idea in this case IMO.|
|agree ...the seller sold him/herself short.....||Spirito|
May 11, 2002 10:20 AM
|but some of my best buys have been post auction when they have failed to meet reserve....
this is where a buyer has the upper hand over a seller.