|this is what happened to me Saturday||hank|
Feb 2, 2004 6:57 PM
|1st race of the year. mind you i am 40 years old and i have two kids under the age of 5. anyway spend all day friday cleaning bike and putting on tyres. 2.5 hour drive to stay at a motel. get up with plenty of time to eat and you know what before the race. freeze my arss off waiting for race to start. BTW it was my 1st cat 4 race. the race starts and i get gapped on the first descent 7 miles into the race . game over. the next 25 miles i am left debating if it is all worth my time. i love riding so much. but what am i doing? I do not know why my wife puts up with it.
back to the race. i saw the descent as an opportunity to rest. when am i going to learn? it is this lack of nads that is killing me. sorry for blabbering.
the funny thing is that on friday when i was cleaning my bike instead of working i had thoughts of victory.
|It's a learning process........||CARBON110|
Feb 2, 2004 9:52 PM
|Where do you live? Don't fret, it takes some time and it's the first race of the year. Lack of nads LOL how about just being judicous. Sometimes what you did is just the thing to avoid catastrophe. If you are worried about going fast downhill, practice!! Take your time learning it because it is a very important skill. The more you relax and focus on how to safely descend quickly and the less time you worry about how you did in your first race, the faster you will imrpove.
From now on just close your eyes and hope for the best LOL just kidn =P
|Was it a lapse of Judgement or Fear||bimini|
Feb 3, 2004 6:01 AM
|that caused you to back off on the downhill?
If it was fear, work on it. Find some good quiet hills to train on and get comfortable with the speed on the downhills.
If it was a lapse of judgement (resting vs. holding the spot on the downhill), get over it and learn from it. Next time when you approach the top of the hill scope out the biggest guy going up the hill and position yourself behind him. Weight is you friend going downhill and big folks create a great hole in the wind behind them. That way you can rest while hanging on.
|re: this is what happened to me Saturday||Fignons_ponytail|
Feb 3, 2004 7:10 AM
|Was it lack of nads, or did your legs just not feel good early in the race which is why you backed off on the descent?
How did you warm up? How long did you ride on Thursday? How long did you ride on friday? Back when I started racing, the same thing used to happen to me at nearly every race. It was so frustrating because on training rides I was always one of the stronger riders. Turns out my pre-race warmup was all wrong. Your warmup starts two days before your event. Everyone is different, but here's what works like a charm for me:
Thursday: easy spinning for <1 hour (zone 1,2)
Friday: 1.5-2 hour ride. most in zone 2, but two or three short intervals at zone 5a-5b, and a few sprints
Saturday (race): 30 minute warmup zone 1,2 followed by a few race intensity intervals, followed by 10 minutes of spinning.
|You pussy. Here's what happened to me on Saturday:||shirt|
Feb 3, 2004 11:04 AM
|I'm 39, have a baby coming in March and so planned a short mini-season that began with the Patterson RR ten days ago (10th place in Masters 1,2,3) Once the baby comes I'm sitting the next two years out. My training has been going very well and on my Saturday training I rode everyone off my wheel except last year's state champ hill climber. I was very much looking forward to the next few crits and RRs in Norcal, all of which play to my strengths.
Descending a road I know pretty well, I hit a small patch of ice (50 degree day! who knew?) and went down faster and harder than I've ever gone before. Damage:
- Broken clavicle
- Broken humerus
- Torn nerve
- Torn ligaments
- Chipped hip bone
- NO RACING FOR TWO YEARS
So quite whining Hank and count your freaking blessings. Last place is still racing, and if you don't like it shut up and find something else to do.
/shirt out... for a while...
Feb 5, 2004 9:44 AM
|I just separated my shoulder a couple of months ago; I can't imagine going through what you went through. And I just recently did a long, winding descent with a buddy, haven't been on the road for awhile with snow/ice/gravel. Much gravel in the road, my buddy wasn't holding back, I was a wuss and held back. Then I read your story....
Sounded like you were having a great start to your 'mini-season'. Aren't you glad you listened to us and raced with the 1/2/3's instead of the 4's?(yeah, right, like we had anything to do with it!) I would trade a victory in the 4's for a top 10 1/2/3 anyday. But for now I'm waiting for top 10 4's.
Hope your recovery is swift and best wishes to you and your wife on the soon-to-be addition to your family.
Feb 5, 2004 11:10 AM
|Man I'm sorry to hear that! I was hoping to meet you at one of the races this season. A lot of my new team-mates did Patterson, but I am waiting untill Pine Flat next weekend. I'm still not used to how early you guys start racing out here.
But anyway man, I am really sorry to hear about your nasty injury and I wish you the best of luck in your recovery. Stay positive and look on the bright side in that you will have all the time you need to spend with your family now. It is always horrible to get hurt when you have great form though, but Murphy's Law is how it is...
|Thanks hrv, thanks RMR||shirt|
Feb 5, 2004 12:32 PM
|I'll probably be going under the knife in 2 weeks to clean out bone chips and see what's going on with a nerve. My rotator cuff feels fine, but I can't rotate or lift my arm since the nerve seems to be dead.
I got on a spinning bike yesterday for 30 minutes and felt okay, except that sitting upright for more than ten minutes really makes your ass hurt.
Depending on how fast the surgery heals, I may try to do the Pinole TT on the 29th (no sprinting) and the Land Park/Mather Field crit fest the following weekend. It's probably too soon, but I've got forever to heal afterwards.
That, as they say, is racing.
Feb 3, 2004 12:28 PM
|Man, if I hear one more person complain about "I have two kids and married, blah, blah, blah". Nobody made you get married and have kids. I'm 38, married, two kids, a job and finished with what was left of the front group at the Buellton race in the 3's. My wife puts up with it because it makes me happy and believe it or not getting married and having kids does not mean that you become this subservient wimp who's life is secondary to the wife and kids. Train harder.|
|It always amazes me...||MShaw|
Feb 5, 2004 8:18 AM
|that people get so friggen whipped that they give up (GIVE UP!) cycling while they have a baby.
There's trainers, there's shorter rides, there's lunchtime rides, there's night rides. LOTS of ways to stay riding instead of giving it all up. Yeah, you may not be able to upgrade to a 2 for a bit, but stop riding (shaking head in amazement)?
Granted, I don't have a baby, but I can't stop riding/running/swimming/etc. or I go crazy and gain a bunch of weight. That makes me not happy with myself. That someone would let me do that to myself boggles my brain.
|re: could happen to me next Saturday||ORdirtydown|
Feb 3, 2004 12:36 PM
|Almost the same situation here except it will be my 2nd year racing and my kids are both 5 and me at 40. I dreamed about being at the front for my first race last year. I didn't even make the top 80. I still hang on to the hope that my name got left off of the results. A few of us still made a race of it to the end while others excused themselves to finish their "training ride." I learned a lot last year and I am looking forward to learning more this year. My goal (top 20) this year is more realistic and yet still a stretch.
I sat in a pre-season seminar with Renee Wenzel on the topic of race strategy. There were a few of us eager newbies seeking the secret. His response was, "Go out and race hard. You don't know anything and you won't until you race." It was exactly what I needed to hear.
The races revealed my weaknesses so I could work on them for this year. More will be revealed this year. I can hardly wait. 1.5 weeks until first race.
At least stick it out through the good weather when it is really fun.
|Buy a Triple||Keeping up with Junior|
Feb 3, 2004 1:57 PM
|Not a triple crank. Buy a triple tandem. Spend some training miles hauling around a 100 ponuds of kids. You wont need to buy any lightweight techno crap for your race bike because anytime you ride without the kids you will feel like a rocket.
In a few years the kids will be motoring on the back with a great power to weight ratio and the triple will be putting the hurt on anyone that can hang onto your wheel. When they become teenagers they will be chasing your butt and it will be all you can do to keep from having them whip you.
Bonus #1 you get to spend some great quality time with your kids and expose them to your sport and the many things that noncyclist never see or experience. Bonus #2 you get mega brownie points with the wife by giving her 3 hours off from being mom while you are out training.
|Buy a Triple||ORdirtydown|
Feb 3, 2004 2:31 PM
|Considered it. I am only good enough for one trail-a-bike. I have it set up to run on my single speed mtb. Makes for a good hill workout. The kids get totally excited on the descents cause dad lets it roll. We have some old closed paved logging roads close to the house that run along the foothills.|
|Buy a Triple||wily in pacifica|
Feb 3, 2004 2:50 PM
|Here is your triple 2 years ago.|
|Buy a Triple||wily in pacifica|
Feb 3, 2004 2:52 PM
|Same kids but they threw Mom off. Picked the 6 year old up from school and rode to the beach for ice Cream. In three more years will need the Quad as we now have a 5 month old.|
|Buy a Triple||xcmntgeek|
Feb 4, 2004 5:10 AM
|It takes a very secure man to wear a pink backpack and shave his legs...|
|Buy a Triple||Rich_Racer|
Feb 4, 2004 10:05 AM
|Well he does seem to be producing kids at a good manly rate! ;)|
|Buy a Triple||wily in pacifica|
Feb 4, 2004 1:48 PM
|Lucky for me you can't see the Barbie on the back. I pick them up on occasion from school and that is her school bag. I tried to get her to use my old Timbuk2 but she wouldn't go for it.|
|You did much better than me.||Spoiler|
Feb 8, 2004 7:24 PM
|I did my first Cat IV race at age 33. I had been training with a coach, riding with a racing team, training 15 hours a week, and was in dealing with only a light college class load. The race was the Mt. Lemmon time trial. I weighed 137 lbs.
I had ridden the course a couple time a week for quite some time. Like you, I had visions of victory. After all, I had covered all the bases and was in the best racing condition of my life. In the race, I bested my quickest time by 5 minutes.
But that time was good enough for dead last place.
The thing to keep in mind is that many aspiring pros finish dead last or don't even finish their first race. US racers go to Europe and get left behind like fat old women.
If you feel you can't enjoy racing unless you get results, you probably won't be happy.
If you could look into a crystal ball you might very well find out that you're destined to finish dead at the bottom of the heap in every race.
But you might find that you'll still enjoy the PROCESS, and the fact that you can tell people you race bikes. You might find that you get fulfillment in marking races down on the calendar, training for them, and staying fit.
One question. Do you get a chance to ride with groups much? If you can find a few people who you can use to get some skills training, it might help. Decending on your own, when you have the whole road to pick the perfect line, is totally different than trying to follow wheels, hold your line, and have faith in other's doing the same. I crashed going solo on a decent a while back. I recovered physically, but I never recovered mentally. I still can't just let it go. I'm riding the brakes all the time. It's a shame cause I really use to have fun leaning it hard, shooting out of corners.